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The new ad by the RNC BLASTS the incompetence of the liberal democrats in power today. It puts on display the lack of any type of real decision making process, other than just saying what the people want to hear, and doing whatever is necessary to keep the base quiet. Sad, but true...

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This is one of many of Obama's quagmires that he created all by himself.
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The nation is spilt pretty evenly on this issue. Congress has the right to ask for a plan before Gitmo is closed, although I'm not sure this isn't a delaying tactic as much as anything because the country is split. We all know how loath Congress is to make the hard decisions, especially with an election looming next year. Pres. Obama has not changed his mind on the policy; he wants Gitmo closed.
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Just 36% now agree with the president’s decision to close the prison camp for suspected terrorists at the Guantanamo Naval Base in Cuba. Forty-six percent (46%) oppose closing the prison camp, and 18% are undecided.

This marks an eight-point drop in support for Obama’s decision since he announced it in late January when voters were almost evenly divided on the issue. Last November, only 32% thought the prison should be closed.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ..._united_states
The opinion on closing Guantanamo Bay was close to being even back in January. Things have changed.
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The opinion on closing Guantanamo Bay was close to being even back in January. Things have changed.
Most likely because of the propaganda campaign of fear mongering waged by the right, such as the ad under discussion.

Not that such tactics are out of character, of course....
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Former Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge is taking President Obama to task over his handling of closing the detention center on Guantanamo Bay.

In his interview with CNN's John King on State of the Union Sunday, Ridge said Obama "doesn't have a plan" on how to relocate the current detainees, and suggested the president announced he was close the facility prematurely.

"Reaching conclusion that you can shut it down without determining the manner in which you were going to adjudicate those who should stay somewhere… How are we going to dispose of them?" he said.

"And at the end of the day, doesn't the world community have another problem? If you think we're going to be dealing with international terrorism in many forms for the next decade or two or three, aren't we going to encounter this again?" He continued. "Maybe not only in the United States, but elsewhere around the world? How are we going to deal with this?"
Obama is the one who is being political and partisan. He is saying a lot of things that are for no other purpose than to prop up his own party on an issue that they have a track record of failing on.
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Default Blow a hundred million on a new prison, or keep them at the perfect location?

Too bad for Obama that he pandered to his hyperlib devotees with the pledge to bring the terrorist trash onto American soil, because now he's got to move heaven and earth to do it. For so many reasons, the only intelligent course is to leave them at Gitmo, EXACTLY WHERE THEY ALREADY ARE:

1. The SuperMax prison here in Colorado is FULL.
2. No other location in the US is considered adequate, by any standards.
3. Gitmo is already PERFECT -- it needs nothing more.

If Obama had any sense, he'd simply make up some kind of silly crap for his hyperlib followers to swallow, and then go on. They thrive on a diet of his bullsh!t anyway, so it's just a matter of adjusting the recipe....

If he's clever, he can dream up some kind of way to blame this on Bush, too, and he'll come out of it all smellling like a rose!

Or, he can blow another hundred million dollars we don't have to accomplish nothing but bringing this human disease into our country where the ACLU lawyers can have a field day with them for years, also at our expense....
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Obama's decisions are like the weather in Texas if you wait, it will change...(No offense Texans but your weather is changeable.) I think he was only playing to the liberals when he said he wanted to close Gitmo...bet he doesn't care if it is open or closed. He just didn't want to deal with the negativity it was creating amongst the liberals.
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The new ad by the RNC BLASTS the incompetence of the liberal democrats in power today. It puts on display the lack of any type of real decision making process, other than just saying what the people want to hear, and doing whatever is necessary to keep the base quiet...
seems to me this is true of both parties.
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1. The SuperMax prison here in Colorado is FULL.
Room can always be made by moving "less dangerous" human beings from one prison to another "super max" facility. Or we can simply send them to other "super max" prisons. There's more than just one, you know?

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2. No other location in the US is considered adequate, by any standards.
By who's standards? Yours? Any "super max" facility will do. We already house terrorists, both home-grown and foreign, in Colorado and in other prisons across the country.

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3. Gitmo is already PERFECT -- it needs nothing more.
Guantanamo Bay isn't in the United States, which logically would make it easier to attack and free detainees. Also, the people at Guantanamo aren't all terrorists, or even suspected terrorists, as admitted by ex-Bush administration folks. Some of them were simply sold to the U.S. by tribal leaders or vengeful neighbors.

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"There are still innocent people there," Lawrence Wilkerson, a Republican who was chief of staff to then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, told the Associated Press. "Some have been there six or seven years."
SOURCE: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNFH16JM02.DTL
I suggest you slow down and analyze all of the available data before firing off such heated hatred towards liberals.
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