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Old 05-01-2005, 03:27 PM
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Default Sudan becomes US ally in 'war on terror'

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Sudan's Islamist regime, once shunned by Washington for providing a haven for Osama bin Laden as well as for human rights abuses during decades of civil war, has become an ally in the Bush administration's "war on terror".
Only months after the US accused Khartoum of carrying out genocide in Darfur, Sudan has become a crucial intelligence asset to the CIA.

In the Middle East and Africa, Sudan's agents have penetrated networks that would not normally be accessible to America, one former US intelligence official told the Guardian. Some of that cooperation has spilled over into the war in Iraq: Sudan is credited with detaining foreign militants on their way to join anti-American fighters there.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/...473788,00.html

This is utterly disgusting. Colin Powell calls it genocide and the next thing you know the two governments are allies. This can only spell disaster for the millions of Darfurians caught up in this terrible crisis.

No doubt the US will attempt to water-down or veto any UN resolutions against Sudan; and for what? So they can save maybe a few hundred lives when they could be saving millions?

I am utterly appalled at this.
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Default Sudan becomes US ally in 'war on terror'

ALL-IS-WOE Laments [quote][Sudan becomes US ally in 'war on terror' This is utterly disgusting. Colin Powell calls it genocide and the next thing you know the two governments are allies. This can only spell disaster for the millions of Darfurians caught up in this terrible crisis.

No doubt the US will attempt to water-down or veto any UN resolutions against Sudan; and for what? So they can save maybe a few hundred lives when they could be saving millions? I am utterly appalled at this. /quote]


I don't know how much of this is actually true since the Guardian is not exactly a respectable, reliable, or neutral source of "news". It's sort of like a left wing version of Fox news, BUT 1000 times worse.

Having said all of that just look at history we were friends with the filthy Bolshevik butcher Stalin. We looked the other way while Stalin and the Russians murdered millions because they were useful to us in fighting the other filthy butcher Hitler.

It's like let's be friends with the filthy despot of the month club .
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all-is-woe.....your complaint is much like expecting that a police department should not be able to deal with bad guys (informers and the like) in cracking down on crime. It's where they get their best leads and information. I wouldn't expect that just because the U.S. cannot save everybody that it follows that we shouldn't then save the few that we are assured of saving.

And so.....what about Britain? How come YOUR country didn't stop the genocide? How come France, who had troops stationed nearby, didn't even attempt to stop the genocide?
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[quote="f100supersabr";p="128979"]ALL-IS-WOE Laments
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[Sudan becomes US ally in 'war on terror' This is utterly disgusting. Colin Powell calls it genocide and the next thing you know the two governments are allies. This can only spell disaster for the millions of Darfurians caught up in this terrible crisis.

No doubt the US will attempt to water-down or veto any UN resolutions against Sudan; and for what? So they can save maybe a few hundred lives when they could be saving millions? I am utterly appalled at this. /quote]


I don't know how much of this is actually true since the Guardian is not exactly a respectable, reliable, or neutral source of "news". It's sort of like a left wing version of Fox news, BUT 1000 times worse.

Having said all of that just look at history we were friends with the filthy Bolshevik butcher Stalin. We looked the other way while Stalin and the Russians murdered millions because they were useful to us in fighting the other filthy butcher Hitler.

It's like let's be friends with the filthy despot of the month club .
"The Guardian is like a left-wing version of Faux News"....????

Say what?

The Guardian is NOTHING like Faux News.....they employ JOURNALISTS...something NO-ONE can say with a straight face about Rupert Murdoch's filthy right-wing "news" organization...
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that is rather disgusting.
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And so.....what about Britain? How come YOUR country didn't stop the genocide? How come France, who had troops stationed nearby, didn't even attempt to stop the genocide?
That JP5 is the master of the red herring.
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it's funny because she changes it to what UK does to stop it rather than try to give example of the UK condoning genocide, in the way the US has now done with sudan.
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No, not a red herring at all. I truly want to know why you think it's always the United States....and NOT your country.....that should stop genocides wherever they occur. Tell me why the SUDAN is the United States problem......and NOT Britain's.....and NOT the UN's.....and NOT France's? And if you can't.....then just shut up about it.
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JP5.....youre avoiding the fact that we have made an alliance with the verty people who are COMMITTING THE GENOCIDE.

Given you cant even comment on that, anything you say is null and void.

All you do is say "Why should it be the US's problem, blah blah blah."

You wanted Saddam Hussein dead for committing genocide, and yet you think its fine for us to ally with people who have already killed tens of thousands of people.

Dont even try to justify your position, there is no possible justification for it.

You cant even debate, all you do is dodge, and spout rhetoric. And you condone genocide.

So why is it you should be given credibility?
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Default You're right JP

but I don't think that most libbys even read the article. They just see words popping out at them and start making an argument. Genocide is always a good crowd pleaser. What third world or middle eastern country hasn't at one time or another committed genocide? By doing this, they can keep the focus off any positive progress, like obtaining intelligence on the war on terror, and pound away at the past mistakes making sure to guarantee an uphill battle all the way.
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