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This is very sad...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,156398,00.html

Scare tactics against school children is a new low even for PETA.

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PETA's frightening of young children by equating, or even associating, truly disturbed behavior such as mutilation of a family pet with common everyday practices such as eating hamburgers amounts to nothing less than ideological child abuse.
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PETA even tries to scare kids away from drinking milk, a food so controversial that it occupies its very own wedge on the latest FDA food pyramid for optimal nutrition. A series of trading cards called "Don't Be a Milk Sucker" available from its Web site, features cartoon characters suffering a host of illnesses PETA attributes to milk consumption such as ear infections, obesity, acne, and even diabetes!

Nor does milk consumption escape PETA's definition as a distinctly cruel act against animals. We meet "Milk-Stealing Ming," who is depicted with his mouth directly attached to an unhappy cow's udder, alongside a "wanted poster" describing his crimes and exclaiming, "cows make milk for their babies, not for maniacs like Ming."
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PETA has been targeting children with tactics like this for a number of years. They are a ridiculously narcissistic group that should be condemned by every rationally minded American.
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Do not silence PETA!!!! These nutjobs do more damage to their cause by just openly being themselves.


"Milk-Stealing Ming"........now that sounds like pure comedy gold.
I'd love to see an episode of that.
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The hypocrisy is pathetic from terrorists like PETA;

This is a WorldNetDaily printer-friendly version of the article which follows.
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Thursday, May 12, 2005
New billboard: 'PETA
kills animals'
Education effort points out nonprofit destroys 85% of pets in its shelter
Posted: May 12, 2005
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom
© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A new publicity campaign run by a consumer-freedom organization is using a billboard in Times Square to expose the group People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA, saying the nonprofit is a deceptive money-grabbing lobby that actually kills over a thousand animals every year.

The Center for Consumer Freedom runs a project it calls PETAKillsAnimals.com.


Times Square billboard

"Hypocrisy is the mother of all credibility problems, and People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals has it in spades," states the new anti-PETA website. "While loudly complaining about the 'unethical' treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers and countless other Americans, the group has its own dirty little secret.

"PETA kills animals. By the thousands.

"From July 1998 through the end of 2003, PETA killed over 10,000 dogs, cats and other 'companion animals' – at its Norfolk, Virginia, headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 85 percent of the animals it took in during 2003 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing."

While PETA in 2003 adopted out 14 percent of its animals, the Center for Consumer Freedom notes, other animal shelters had a much higher placement rate. That same year, the Norfolk, Va., SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals, while the Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent.

The organization announced this week it had secured space on a 60-by-60-foot billboard in New York City's Times Square to publicize its anti-PETA message.

"We're out to tell the truth about PETA," said Center for Consumer Freedom research director David Martosko in a statement. "This group's duplicity knows no bounds. PETA accepts animal-lovers' donations with one hand while administering lethal injections to puppies and kittens with the other. That's not 'ethical.' It's hypocritical."

The website notes on PETA's 2002 income-tax return, it claimed a $9,370 write-off for a giant walk-in freezer. Why would vegetarians need a freezer? – " to store the bodies of its victims," states the site.

PETA could refrain from euthanizing so many animals, the Center for Consumer Freedom claims, but it would cost the organization more money to do so.

"PETA raked in nearly $29 million last year in income, much of it raised from pet owners who think their donations actually help animals," said Martosko. "Instead, the group spends huge sums on programs equating people who eat chicken with Nazis, scaring young children away from drinking milk, recruiting children into the radical animal-rights lifestyle, and intimidating businessmen and their families in their own neighborhoods."

The site also hammers PETA for giving "tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals," including the North American Earth Liberation Front – "an FBI-certified 'domestic terrorist' group."

PETAKillsAnimals.com further takes the group to task for its publicity campaign targeting children. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature, the site says, tells small children: "Your Mommy Kills Animals!"

In addition to targeting PETA, the Center for Consumer Freedom says it "stands up to the 'food police,' environmental scaremongers, neo-prohibitionists, meddling bureaucrats and other self-anointed saints who claim to 'know what's best' for you."

If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll.

Related stories:

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PETA: Christian designed pig billboard

Pig billboard: 'He died for your sins'

Group goes after PETA's tax-free status

PETA urges schools to cut out dissection

PETA ideals drive businesses away

Hamburg urged to change name to Veggieburg

PETA slams use of dolphins in war

PETA likens chickens to Holocaust victims

Ron Strom is a news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.
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What a bunch of nutters.

Whether or not this stuff is used in schools depends on HOW it's used. If it's just presented uncritically, that's a problem. But our treatment of animals, industrial farming and discussion of the ethical thought behind vegetarianism are all legitimate subjects. So if some of the PETA stuff is used as part of a larger discussion, I don't have a problem with it.

Although I think there must be saner organizations than PETA from which to obtain such material.
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So if some of the PETA stuff is used as part of a larger discussion, I don't have a problem with it.
A "larger discussion"? A discussion with whom? The children on whom they're inflicting their ideology? Here's an idea. How about they just leave them alone and let them be kids?

This is classic indoctrination. Using a trusted institution (the school) which is a huge developmental aspect of a child's life, to tell that child that they are bad person, simply because PETA does not approve of their behavior. Ecofascism, indeed.

In any case, when you regard a child as a "maniac" simply for drinking milk (as most children do), exactly how much room are you leaving for discussion?
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A "larger discussion"? A discussion with whom? The children on whom they're inflicting their ideology? Here's an idea. How about they just leave them alone and let them be kids?
If you're doing a class on agriculture, talking about how our food is produced can legitimately include a discussion of how we treat farm animals. Some (note the word "some") of PETA's materials could be relevant and informative to that discussion.

Not all teaching is "teacher hands down Truth to students; students absorb like sponges." Good teaching supports critical thinking and weighing different perspectives. Whatever you may think of PETA, they certainly provide a different perspective.

It all depends on how you use the material. If a teacher just accepts the entire PETA lesson plan and teaches it uncritically, they should be fired. The classroom is not the place to promote personal choices like vegetarianism. But in a proper context -- where it's made clear that PETA is an advocacy group that holds views most people consider peculiar -- some of the PETA stuff could be acceptable to show an alternative view on human use of animals. You also could use a lot of PETA material in a class on propaganda.

That's what I mean when I say the real issue isn't the material; it's how you use it. The responsiblity here lies with the teacher.

I'm not supporting PETA, or condoning their ridiculous behavior. If a school district wanted nothing to do with PETA because they're a bunch of wingnuts, I'd support them. But the mere fact that PETA may have supplied some of the materials a teacher uses in a classroom does not mean the kids are being indoctrinated.
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humane treatment of farm animals than any other organization. I grew up on a small farm where we grew and ate our own food (including beef). A huge threat to our environment and traditional farm economy is the large scale factory farm that is polluting states across the U.S., driving down produce prices, and driving small farmers out of business.

PETA, with their insistence on a rigid vegan line has done more to ensure continuing animal cruelty in factory farms than any other organization. A better place to start is a realistic position that recognizes that 90+% of Americans are going to continue to eat meat and dairy products, and begins to educate them on the problems with factory farms.

We eat organic meat, eggs, and dairy products because I am willing to pay a little more to support local small farmers and to keep my kids from ingesting a host of chemicals.

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PETA, with their insistence on a rigid vegan line has done more to ensure continuing animal cruelty in factory farms than any other organization.
I agree, and this sentence is the key. PETA is not an animal-cruelty organization; it is a vegan activist organization. Real, responsible animal-cruelty groups probably have little pin-filled PETA voodoo dolls.
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PETA, with their insistence on a rigid vegan line has done more to ensure continuing animal cruelty in factory farms than any other organization.
I agree, and this sentence is the key. PETA is not an animal-cruelty organization; it is a vegan activist organization. Real, responsible animal-cruelty groups probably have little pin-filled PETA voodoo dolls.
I know two people who work for two different groups for animal rights and to say they hate PETA is an understatement. They think they're hypocritical and most importantly do more harm than good.
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