Yes, I can justify my claim. Saddam was a threat because he never complied with the terms of the end of the first Gulf War. It could have been over and done in about 2 weeks....but he continued to stall, hide, lie, and mislead. HE NEVER COOPERATED. And that was the reason for the UN sanctions during the mid 90's. Charles Duelfer said in his final report that Saddam had every intention of starting things back up as soon as he got the sanctions lifted.......and he was well on his way there.....via his bribes to certain countries.

Come on, HD: get your facts straight. George W. Bush fully supported Clinton on Kosovo. I didn't......but Geoge W. Bush did.

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

From Source: Presidential Debate at Wake Forest University Oct 11, 2000



Q: Is Milosevic’s defeat a triumph for U.S. military intervention?

BUSH: I think it’s a triumph. I thought the president made the right decision in joining NATO in bombing Serbia. I supported him when they did so. I think it worked. I’m pleased I made the decision I made, and I’m pleased the president made the decision he made, because freedom took hold in that part of the world. There’s a lot of work left to be done, however. I don’t think he would have fallen had we not used force. I know there’s some in my party that disagreed with that sentiment. The administration deserves credit for having made it work...."

http://www.issues2000.org/George_W__Bush_Kosovo.htm

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Clintonite after Clintonite. My question is, "So when does this so-called CHANGE start?"

And the Beat Goes On has now reached the top spot on their Top 40 Countdowns.

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"Tweeter was a Boyscout before she went to Vietnam and found out the hard way... nobody gives a d@mn."

Bush said he KNEW Saddam had tons and tons of WMDs and poison that posed a threat to our country. Rummy said he knew where the stuff was. They were both lying. Deal with it.

[quote="polcomgem";p="133158"]JP5 should stay--but I do think she should be held to a higher standard as a moderator and stop harassing, belittling, and labeling people as Anti-American or a Bush hater when she senses they disagree with her--or when they are exploring subjects she has already formed a complete opinion on.

Sometimes it is nice to explore different sides of issues without foreclosing conversations and concluding them before they begin.

When I reread my post--I should not have said vote her off--but I still maintain that:
I could ask you the same thing. Please stop your hate behavior toward the Bush administration. The moderators should talk to you about not posting any hate speak toward the US government.

Does this sound ridiculous to you? It dose to me. Just as ridiculous as what you are proposing toward JP5. You can't win an argument by trying to shut up the opposition.

Grow up!

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that in 2005 American citizens are suggesting to other American citizens that if they don't agree with the Bush Administration we should leave the country. How many right-wing American haters have made this pledge? If you are suggesting people leave the country YOU ARE UNAMERICAN. I am soooooo sick of the right-wing American haters blasting everyone and everything that they don't like. You hate Americans unless they agree with you. See that's the difference. Democrats, Independents and Moderates generally believe that everyone's voice has a right to be heard. The right-wing American haters believe that EVERYONE that doesn't believe what they believe is lefty liberal pinko traitor that is out to destroy the world. There is no point in trying to sway these people to see reality. The right-wing American haters don't care about you and what you believe. They care about getting absolutely everything that they want and when they don't get it they cry and whine about it. The Republicans are like little school children that name call and throw stones because they don't get their way. It is not a staggering leap to see why the right-wing American haters act the same way. It makes me sick!!

I think where the right wingers (such as JP5) go wrong on this board is that they try to argue about the existence of WMD’s or they try to connect 9/11 and Iraq or they say well Saddam was a bad guy anyway so WMD’s don’t matter. IMO none of that matters, because I fully believe that the Bush Administration had a Middle East peace plan prior to 9/11 although it involved preemptive strikes which would never be supported by the American public without a direct attack against the US or an eminent threat. Then 9/11 happened which gave GWB the ability to carry out his plans for sewing the seeds of democracy and peace in the Middle East. After 9/11 the first piece of the puzzle was Afghanistan which could easily be invaded with public approval after the terrorist attacks against the US. The next piece of the puzzle Iraq, was a bit more difficult to gather public support for a pre-emptive strike. So I think the Bush administration put their heads together to come up with a strategy to gain approval from the American people for attacking Iraq. Thus the WMD’s were brought to light, now in my opinion whether the WMD’s ever existed or not is really not the issue, OK…. did GWB lie?!?!… maybe… maybe not…the key issue is that attacking Iraq to overthrow Saddam was a key part of his Middle East peace plan. However, if he would have come to the American public and explained it as such he never would have been given approval for the preemptive strike against Iraq. This is why he needed to mention WMD’s as an eminent threat, I liken his approach to the phrase “Why ask permission when you can beg for forgiveness”.