Originally Posted by HB Surfer

Actually what your article is really arguing is that the data from the past is not reliable at all. Couple that with the current sensors being located near air conditioning vents and other heat generating elements there is no real case to be made on "the data".

Originally Posted by radical student

Besides the fact that it already has been proven unequivocally.

Originally Posted by Professor Peabody

May we have a link to that please? All I've ever read was "Very Likely", which is a long way from proven unequivocally.

Originally Posted by Saryk

For something to be a FACT, it has to be proven and can’t be refuted.

This is no different than people claiming that the world was flat. Once the discovery was proven, then it became fact, not before

Originally Posted by livefree

As the world's climate scientists issue ever more urgent warnings about the disastrous consequences of mankind's carbon emissions on the environment and Earth's climate systems, the right wing cabal of climate change deniers with a vested interest in fossil fuel profits continues to delay and dilute any meaningful effort to deal with this planetary crisis. We are systematically degrading and destroying the world our children will inherit for the sake of the short term profits of blind, greedy fools. Over the next decade, as the consequences of these delaying tactics become more obvious and more deadly, it is my hope that those responsible will be brought up on charges of 'crimes against humanity' and hung like Nazi war criminals.

Scientists warn of climate catastrophe

June 18th, 2009

The world faces a growing risk of "abrupt and irreversible climatic shifts" as fallout from global warming hits faster than expected, according to research by international scientists released Thursday.

Global surface and ocean temperatures, sea levels, extreme climate events, the retreat of Arctic sea ice are all increasing significantly faster than experts predicted, they warned.

The stark warning comes less than six months before an international conference aiming to seal a global treaty to save the planet from the worst ravages of global warming.

A 36-page document summarized more than 1,400 studies presented at a climate conference in March in Copenhagen, where a new meeting will be held in December to hammer out successor to the Kyoto Protocol.

It said greenhouse gas emissions and other climate indicators are at or near the upper boundaries forecast by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), whose 2007 report has been the scientific benchmark for the troubled UN talks.

There is also new evidence that the planet itself has begun to contribute to global warming through fall out from human activity.

Huge stores of gases such as methane -- an even more powerful greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide -- trapped for millennia in the Arctic permafrost may be starting to leak into the atmosphere, speeding up the warming process.

The natural capacity of the oceans and forests to absorb CO2 created by the burning of fossil fuels has also been compromised, research has shown.

The new report, written and reviewed by many of the scientists who compiled the IPCC document, calls on policy makers to take urgent steps to keep average global temperatures from increasing more than two degrees Centigrade (3.6 degree Fahrenheit), compared to pre-industrial levels.

"Rapid, sustained, and effective mitigation ... is required to avoid 'dangerous climate change' regardless of how it is defined," it said.

"Temperature rises above 2 Celsius will be difficult for contemporary societies to cope with, and are likely to cause major societal and environmental disruptions through the rest of the century and beyond."

The IPCC has said that achieving this goal would require industrialised nations to slash greenhouse gas emissions by 25-40 percent compared to 1990 levels.

The new report suggested that deep and early emissions cuts -- one of the most contentious issues on the table in the UN talks -- are essential.

"Weaker targets for 2020 increase the risk of serious impacts, including the crossing of tipping points" beyond which natural forces reinforce the warming process.

(c) 2009 AFP

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Originally Posted by Bowerbird

And this refers to thousands of scientist around the world - scientists from places like Australia, Japan, UK, Russia, Norway, Sweden etc?

It also seemingly refers to the over 180 countries that have been convinced of the problem and have signed Kyoto.

Biggest scam in history then

Originally Posted by Anthony1

Global warming is the worst debate ever. Look at you people.

Originally Posted by TheHat

Let me give these people who predict all these ridiculous scenarios a clue:

Go crawl into a corner, assume the fetal position, and prepare for the worst. The rest of us, will adapt and overcome whatever mother nature throws at us. We cant control it, so just sit in the corner and cry about things.

I grow sick and tired of these fear mongering whores who call themselves experts in their supposed "respective" fields.

Bunch of lunatic crackheads if you ask me.

Originally Posted by mikezila

they're the same profession that thought the stars were diamonds and the sun was a burning lump of coal.