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Old 06-21-2005, 10:11 AM
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No one wants to hear your Bush hating, commie crap. Now have a drink of Kool-Aid. It will all be OK. W is your co-pilot.
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No one wants to hear your Bush hating, commie crap. Now have a drink of Kool-Aid. It will all be OK. W is your co-pilot.
Father Stekim and thank you for setting me on the right path. Thank you for the Cherry FLAVORED Kool Aid. Can I have another glass, please?
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Old 06-21-2005, 10:47 AM
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Default The more the better, Munko.

After a few glasses you will see things the "right" way. Now go put that W sticker on your SUV.
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Default Lie? Well there's that whole WMD thing that wasn't exactly..

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And it’s important to speak out when a government lies and indicates it has misguided policies.
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Lies? Where did our government lie to us? Is that one of those things you think if you say over and over again people will start to beleive?
...what's the word? accurate.....He doesn't have them, he didn't have them and none have been found.

Let's start off with that lie shall we?

Then we'll move onto the "this iraq war is the frontline in the war on terror" lie, exept for the fact the the US has been attacked exactly zero times by Iraq, or Iraqi "terrorists" until the Connecticut Cowboy illegally invaded two years ago.

That's a pretty big lie, that'll take some time..

Then there's the "we exhausted very avenue to prevent war" lie.

That's probably the biggest lie, because it is now out in the open, in black and white for all to see, that Lt AWOL and Unka Dick had been planning this war for MONTHS, and were prepared to LIE in order to start it.

Those lies.
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I believe I need a GALLON of Kool AID, Father Stekim..

http://www.boston.com/news/world/mid...ack_equipment/

Pray TELL: Is it Anti American to point this out? Is one a Bush Hater to state that this story is much more important than Sen Durbin's words or whether "PORNO MOUSTACHE II" BOLTON (to borrow from one of our intellectuals on this board) is fit for the UN job?

Maybe..just maybe..if our Marines were equipped, the insurgents weapons may not be as lethal?

Is the Inspector General a Bush and America hater?

Am I supporting our troops by highlighting this story?

Can you help me, Father STEKIM answer these many questions?
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We can't pull out before the job is done. To do so would be a slap in the face to each person who served in this war. If public opinion gets bad enough, it is likely that President Bush will declare victory (again) and pull the troops while telling the world that the job is done. If he does bow to pressure, he will be excoriated by all Americans; the anti-Iraq war will excoriate him for needlessly putting troops in Iraq, and the pro-Iraq war people will excoriate him for failing to finish the job. .
For now we should agree to disagree. But I do believe that as this conflict progresses there will be more and more pressure from the American people to pull out of it. I don’t foresee the situation in Iraq improving. Iraq will always be in a state of flux but never for the better. Terrorist attacks will ebb and flow. At times the attacks will dissipate lulling us into believing success is near. But the attacks will only flare up again at some future point. Congress should set up a timetable for pulling out based on the number of Iraqi soldiers that are fully trained. Once Iraq has reached the level of 200,000 soldiers fully trained we should be well on our way out of there. Once their troops are trained and armed, Iraq must sink or swim on it’s own. If indigenous troops prove consistently inadequate there will be no end to the excuses for why we have to stay there. That’s why we should adhere strictly to a timetable.

We will re- visit this topic again many times I’m sure.
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For now we should agree to disagree. But I do believe that as this conflict progresses there will be more and more pressure from the American people to pull out of it. I don’t foresee the situation in Iraq improving. Iraq will always be in a state of flux but never for the better. Terrorist attacks will ebb and flow. At times the attacks will dissipate lulling us into believing success is near. But the attacks will only flare up again at some future point. Congress should set up a timetable for pulling out based on the number of Iraqi soldiers that are fully trained. Once Iraq has reached the level of 200,000 soldiers fully trained we should be well on our way out of there. Once their troops are trained and armed, Iraq must sink or swim on it’s own. If indigenous troops prove consistently inadequate there will be no end to the excuses for why we have to stay there. That’s why we should adhere strictly to a timetable.

We will re- visit this topic again many times I’m sure.
You may be correct, but I believe that things will get better. Perhaps I am just more optimistic than you or perhaps you are just more realistic than I am. What I do know is that this needless and illegal invasion has been terribly costly to the country and disasterous for many American families. If Bush bows to public pressure and claims victory and pulls the troops, that act will be a profound slap in the face of every soldiers who served and every family member of every soldier who served.

Make no mistake: the die is cast and we must stay until Iraq is stable and secure. I can only hope that the troubles we have experienced in Iraq will make it impossible for Bush and his neo-con pals to wage any more needless and illegal wars.
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Congress should set up a timetable for pulling out based on the number of Iraqi soldiers that are fully trained. Once Iraq has reached the level of 200,000 soldiers fully trained we should be well on our way out of there.
This is the most reasonable definition of "timetable" I've seen. It's also what I think the Bush administration has in mind.

Most people, when they see "timetable", think you're arguing for a withdrawal by some arbitrary date. That would be irresponsible.
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For now we should agree to disagree. But I do believe that as this conflict progresses there will be more and more pressure from the American people to pull out of it. I don’t foresee the situation in Iraq improving. Iraq will always be in a state of flux but never for the better. Terrorist attacks will ebb and flow. At times the attacks will dissipate lulling us into believing success is near. But the attacks will only flare up again at some future point. Congress should set up a timetable for pulling out based on the number of Iraqi soldiers that are fully trained. Once Iraq has reached the level of 200,000 soldiers fully trained we should be well on our way out of there. Once their troops are trained and armed, Iraq must sink or swim on it’s own. If indigenous troops prove consistently inadequate there will be no end to the excuses for why we have to stay there. That’s why we should adhere strictly to a timetable.

We will re- visit this topic again many times I’m sure.
You may be correct, but I believe that things will get better. Perhaps I am just more optimistic than you or perhaps you are just more realistic than I am. What I do know is that this needless and illegal invasion has been terribly costly to the country and disasterous for many American families. If Bush bows to public pressure and claims victory and pulls the troops, that act will be a profound slap in the face of every soldiers who served and every family member of every soldier who served.

Make no mistake: the die is cast and we must stay until Iraq is stable and secure. I can only hope that the troubles we have experienced in Iraq will make it impossible for Bush and his neo-con pals to wage any more needless and illegal wars.
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