70% of inmates in French prisons are Muslim... - Page 2

EiregoSod · #11 (**permalink**) 06-29-2005, 05:51 PM

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Is it possible that maybe Muslims commit 70% of the crimes in France and that is why they enjoy the benefits of free room and board in French prisons ? Just thought that I would ask !!!!!!

no, the muslims are arrested in areas where the crimes are committed, and thrown in jail as that is enough evidence to convict.

I mean, there was enough evidence to send OJ to gitmo

JP5 · #12 (**permalink**) 06-29-2005, 06:51 PM

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If racism and discrimination are to blame, why are Muslims apparently flocking to France. Seems to me I might want to avoid places that hate white dudes (which is why I never took that job in Syria).

Maybe they're planning on taking over France.

Hansmoleman · #13 (**permalink**) 06-29-2005, 07:01 PM

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And yet France systematcially deprives muslim inmates of the right to practice their beliefs...and, given that muslims make up only approximately 10% of the population of France and 70% of it's prison inmates, it also could be argued that some of those inmates might indeed be innocent victims of institutionalized racism.

Catz

Hold on. Blacks comprise about 13% of the population of the United States yet they comprise about 50% of prison inmates. Would you argue that they might be innocent victims of institutionalized racism?

my answer would be no in both cases.

odanu · #14 (**permalink**) 06-29-2005, 07:05 PM

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Hold on. Blacks comprise about 13% of the population of the United States yet they comprise about 50% of prison inmates. Would you argue that they might be innocent victims of institutionalized racism?

I would argue that institutionalized racism and opportunity disparities play a role. For example, look at the different sentencing guidelines for powdered cocaine vs. crack. Same drug. One form more popular among whites, the other more popular with blacks. Guess which one routinely gets a longer sentence?

Sinanju · #15 (**permalink**) 06-30-2005, 08:49 AM

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Hold on. Blacks comprise about 13% of the population of the United States yet they comprise about 50% of prison inmates. Would you argue that they might be innocent victims of institutionalized racism?

I would argue that institutionalized racism and opportunity disparities play a role. For example, look at the different sentencing guidelines for powdered cocaine vs. crack. Same drug. One form more popular among whites, the other more popular with blacks. Guess which one routinely gets a longer sentence?

To play your game... that is not a fair comparison. You are talking about the American WoD and French imprisonment practices... apples and pizza is what someone else used....

PJO34 · #16 (**permalink**) 06-30-2005, 08:58 AM

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If racism and discrimination are to blame, why are Muslims apparently flocking to France. Seems to me I might want to avoid places that hate white dudes (which is why I never took that job in Syria).

Maybe they're planning on taking over France.

You are probably right. Experts say that if French birthrates and muslim immigration patterns hold, France will be the first Muslim country in Europe.

And how much do you want to bet that France, at that point, will no longer be a secular society?

catzmeow · #17 (**permalink**) 06-30-2005, 09:12 AM

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Hold on. Blacks comprise about 13% of the population of the United States yet they comprise about 50% of prison inmates. Would you argue that they might be innocent victims of institutionalized racism?

While blacks commit crimes at a significantly higher rate than whites, per capita, i would also argue taht a number of studies indicate that they are indeed more likely to be imprisoned for similar offenses, so yes, on some levels, I would.

Catz

Sinanju · #18 (**permalink**) 06-30-2005, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by stekim";p=&quot

If racism and discrimination are to blame, why are Muslims apparently flocking to France. Seems to me I might want to avoid places that hate white dudes (which is why I never took that job in Syria).

Maybe they're planning on taking over France.

You are probably right. Experts say that if French birthrates and muslim immigration patterns hold, France will be the first Muslim country in Europe.

And how much do you want to bet that France, at that point, will no longer be a secular society?

I certainly am not going to bet against you.

LadyLazarus · #19 (**permalink**) 07-04-2005, 11:28 PM

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Same drug.

Not exactly. The preparation of crack causes the effects of powdered cocaine to change significantly. Crack is a much less euphoric, much more aggressive high than powder cocaine.

catzmeow · #20 (**permalink**) 07-05-2005, 05:29 AM

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