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Old 07-11-2005, 07:18 AM
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Default Rove was Plame source

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/4e68d3ae-f1...00e2511c8.html

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Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's top political adviser, was the secret source who gave a Time magazine reporter permission to testify last week, thus avoiding jail for contempt of court, Newsweek reported on Sunday.
So Rove never mentions Plame's name -- but tells the reporter that "Wilson's wife" authorized the trip. Who thinks that's enough of a technicality to get off? I don't. Saying "his wife" is as good as identifying her.

The meatier question is whether Rove knew Plame was undercover, or whether he was just repeating what he thought was unclassified hearsay.
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Old 07-11-2005, 07:35 AM
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this morning they indicated that no crime was committed, but more facts will likely come to light.
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Old 07-11-2005, 07:46 AM
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on the meaning of "CRIME", Ray!!

This case just became even more interesting. Pass the popcorn, will ya, STEKIM??
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Old 07-11-2005, 07:48 AM
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Default btw..

I am no lawyer (and I am sure PJ can elaborate further on this) but if that is Karl's defence, I am sure a good prosecutor can punch holes in that. (LAW and ORDER is my only source. )
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Default hmmm, outing a CIA operative in time of war

amazing the neocons don't find anything wrong with that. That is why the media has dubbed them kool-aid drinkers.
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Old 07-11-2005, 11:41 AM
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Karl Rove, President George W. Bush's top political adviser, was the secret source who gave a Time magazine reporter permission to testify last week, thus avoiding jail for contempt of court, Newsweek reported on Sunday.
So Rove never mentions Plame's name -- but tells the reporter that "Wilson's wife" authorized the trip. Who thinks that's enough of a technicality to get off? I don't. Saying "his wife" is as good as identifying her.

The meatier question is whether Rove knew Plame was undercover, or whether he was just repeating what he thought was unclassified hearsay.
I've thought all along that no crime was committed. Perhaps by someone at the CIA....maybe. But I've also read she wasn't undercover any longer and hadn't been for years. Reporter Clifford May said at the time of Novak's story that he knew Wilson's wife worked for the CIA. So......if he knew it, many others knew it.

You guys are just disappointed because you hoped to "get Karl Rove" and it doesn't look like you're going to.

Here's what I think happened. At the time Joseph Wilson was "implying" that Dick Cheney sent him. What probably happened was that when called, Karl Rove, and others told the reporters, "No, Cheney didn't send him, but supposedly he has a wife who works there at the CIA who may have sent him."

That is NOT breaking the law.
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Here's what I think happened. At the time Joseph Wilson was "implying" that Dick Cheney sent him. What probably happened was that when called, Karl Rove, and others told the reporters, "No, Cheney didn't send him, but supposedly he has a wife who works there at the CIA who may have sent him."

That is NOT breaking the law.
...that you are the ONLY One who THINKS (your scenario is plausible). Thank God you are not the PROSECUTOR!!
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... a full investigation needs to be conducted to find out if Rove committed a crime or not. That type of offense is serious, and no one in government (Rep or Dem) should get away with it.
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... a full investigation needs to be conducted to find out if Rove committed a crime or not. That type of offense is serious, and no one in government (Rep or Dem) should get away with it.
It should NOT matter which party occupies the WH. If a crime has been committed, then the perp should pay.

Are we going to deny that if this was a Clinton WH, there will be no OUTCRY from the right? They would have every right to YELL and SCREAM fro the investigation to continue and I would fully support that.

Does anyone know if the CIA has denied that she was undercover?
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Are you even familiar with the law? Do you even know what all has to be fact before someone has broken that law?
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