Political Forum
     

Go Back   Political Forum > General Political Chat > Current Events


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 07-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 19,926
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 115,413
Default Airliner missile defense system

This is kinda cool. The system has a turret on the bottom of the plane that detects and disrupts heat seeking missiles. The kind fired from shoulder mounted launchers.


Quote:
"Yes, it will cost money, but it's the same cost as an aircraft entertainment system," Kubricky says.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...issiledefenses
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Red Cross - Donate Today    Save the Rainforest
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 07-14-2005, 04:03 PM
stekim's Avatar
stekim stekim is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,884
vanuatu
stekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 65,676
Default It should cost a few bucks per ticket, which is fair.

I would think only international jets really need to be covered, but the cost is small enough to warrant it for all of them.
__________________
Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 07-14-2005, 05:27 PM
Heydrich4president's Avatar
Heydrich4president Heydrich4president is offline
Correspondent
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 286
Heydrich4president has a spectacular aura aboutHeydrich4president has a spectacular aura aboutHeydrich4president has a spectacular aura about
Credits: 1,995
Default ouch BIG $

"The study assumed, however, that it would cost $11 billion - not the $6 billion Northrop now cites - to equip all U.S. aircraft with anti-missile technology."

Or they could just use the cheap flares that the USAF uses.

Isnt the problem them getting high jacked? Not shot down?
All they gotta do is separate the cokpit from the cabin and give the pilots separate entry and exit points. I guess thats to simple and cost effective.

Yes I know I spelt the word wrong but C-pit is all of the sudden a bad word. So I had to go in and change it.

dude??? ####### ????????? its not a bad word??? what the hell
__________________
DERP
with your opinion which is of no consequence at all...
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2005, 04:58 AM
stekim's Avatar
stekim stekim is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,884
vanuatu
stekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 65,676
Default If the cost becomes insanely high,

then forget it. It's not like planes are out there dodging shoulder fired missiles. But if it can be done cost effective, then it adds another layer of safety, which is not a bad thing. The problem is, you cannot spend unlimited amounts of money protecting everyone and everything from every possible form of attack. It's a waste and it's stupid. Plus, despite Bush's thoughts on the matter, money is not in endless supply. You need to prioritize. If intelligence (such as it is) feels that planes being shot down is a real threat and they can find a cost effective way to solve the problem, then great. But if solving the problem is unduly expensive then you aren't really solving anything. Why? Because you cannot protect against everything and the terrorists will just go to Plan B. So in the end you would have spent a whopping amount of money and people will still die.
__________________
Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2005, 07:26 AM
Sadistic-Savior's Avatar
Sadistic-Savior Sadistic-Savior is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 19,926
usa us colorado
Sadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond reputeSadistic-Savior has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 115,413
Default ...

See the quote in my original post in regards to cost. Would you trade an entertainment system for a missile defense system?

This would be a selling point for a LOT of people I would imagine. Especially on international flights.

If the ticket price difference was $5 or even $10, would that sway you to the airline that had a missile defense system on board? I imagine for a lot of people it might, even locally.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2005, 07:57 AM
stekim's Avatar
stekim stekim is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,884
vanuatu
stekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond reputestekim has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 65,676
Default For $10 a ticket it's a fair deal

Expecially since the price will come back down after the system is paid for. Maybe $5 domestic and $10-$15 international would be fine.
__________________
Some days it's not even worth chewing through the restraints.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 07-15-2005, 08:48 AM
Sinanju Sinanju is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,097
Sinanju is on a distinguished road
Credits: 21,648
Default .

Good idea... and I think anyone who believes that this is not a warranted and smart idea is dead wrong. Just because some terrorist hasn't shot down a civilian flight YET does not mean they will NOT.


And flares are not always effective.... but who says we can't have both?
__________________
I was banned from godlike productions(over 400 times)... and loved it.

"I haven't made you angry, have I?" -Malcolm Reynolds
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 07-17-2005, 02:01 PM
thedreamer's Avatar
thedreamer thedreamer is offline
Commentator
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Republic of Ireland
Posts: 952
ireland european union
thedreamer will become famous soon enough
Credits: 6,434
Default Hmm

And how do intend the Airline companies to introduce this?

They'll argue there is no danger at the moment due to their superb security staff and abilities
Any smart businessman will resist extra costs if the economic trade off.
__________________
"Better to die on you feet than live on your knees" - Emilio Zapata
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 07-17-2005, 03:11 PM
lardbeetle's Avatar
lardbeetle lardbeetle is offline
Guru
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,347
usa us washington
lardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond reputelardbeetle has a reputation beyond repute
Credits: 15,234
Default ...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sadistic-Savior";p=&quot View Post
See the quote in my original post in regards to cost. Would you trade an entertainment system for a missile defense system?
No.
I rather like those movies, and the chance of getting killed by a heat seeking missile are astronomically small. Don't waste money doing useless crap like missile defense systems for airliners, for crying out lout.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Forum Jump

Sponsored Links

All times are GMT -8. The time now is 02:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0
Template-Modifikationen durch TMS
vBCredits v1.3 ©2007 by Darkwaltz4
Advertisement System V2.1 By   Branden