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The New China will not use force against her own fresh blood
The New China has no choice. We will not permit them to invade Taiwan. Their military is too weak to defeat us if we decide to defend Taiwan. And they will not go nuclear for obvious reasons.



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America will stand fast for any actions political or military of the Chinese government in regards to Taiwan. Hell we are letting them render people in our secret prisons. We're like brothers now ....accept different!
Very smart, We, the United States with Capitalism agenda, have been making money out of arms sale to Taiwan for the past 30 years, we like the conflicts beteen Taiwan and China, we have no PROMISES, no OBLIGATIONS to stand by Taiwan government. We will decide whether to participate when CHina/Taiwwan conflicts truning to a war. Meanwhile, we enjoy making Boeing, locke martin, Texas Instruments....profitable.

For Economical and Practical resasons, I support our government's foreign policy.
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[quote=Sadistic-Savior;532048]The New China has no choice. We will not permit them to invade Taiwan. Their military is too weak to defeat us if we decide to defend Taiwan. And they will not go nuclear for obvious reasons. [quote]


SoS, You really need to spend some more time googling on Chinese military power. Your impression in regards to Chinese military force is out-dated.
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Very smart, We, the United States with Capitalism agenda, have been making money out of arms sale to Taiwan for the past 30 years, we like the conflicts beteen Taiwan and China, we have no PROMISES, no OBLIGATIONS to stand by Taiwan government. We will decide whether to participate when CHina/Taiwwan conflicts truning to a war. Meanwhile, we enjoy making Boeing, locke martin, Texas Instruments....profitable.
And thwarting the PRC's desires in the process.



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SoS, You really need to spend some more time googling on Chinese military power. Your impression in regards to Chinese military force is out-dated.
Prove it.

Please post the links to China's airforce and navy that you believe show that they can equal or exceed US military power.
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Naval Comparison:

China's Navy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People&...tion_Army_Navy
US Navy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy


Airforce Comparison:

China's Airforce - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People&...raft_inventory
US Airforce - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force
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And thwarting the PRC's desires in the process.

Prove it.

Please post the links to China's airforce and navy that you believe show that they can equal or exceed US military power.

GOOGLE: China's military power
GOOGLE: China's naval force

Then use the POPULATION of China to calculate the numbers of soldiers in army, naval and air force.
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Population alone has nothing to do with their military capabilities.
It does give them a manpower pool to absorb high losses.



Oh and it is now the Official and Open policy of the United States that any attack on Taiwan by China will result in the USA coming to the defense of Taiwan.

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GOOGLE: China's military power
GOOGLE: China's naval force

Then use the POPULATION of China to calculate the numbers of soldiers in army, naval and air force.
Done and done. My opinion remains unchanged.

Explain how their population is relevant to an air or naval war.

Population means nothing if they are stuck on the ground. How exactly is China going to use them against us? Are they all going to throw rocks or something?
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Population alone has nothing to do with their military capabilities.
It does give them a manpower pool to absorb high losses.
1 billion of soldiers vs. 50 millions of soldiers
1.3 billion of people vs. 300 millions of people

In regards to weapons, just what we have that they don't have?

who will win eventually.

Just in case, giving ten years of war time for this fictional war.
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Mind-boggling numbers are both China's strength and weakness.

If China manages to keep growing its economy and raising standards of living, it's reasonable to think that they'll one day surpass us technologically. With 1.2 billion people, they could (with a touch of hyperbole) produce a number of engineers and scientists that almost equals our entire population. With an R&D base that large, and an economy big enough and wealthy enough (per capita) to fund it, they could simply swamp us.

But as SS points out, raising standards of living for that many people is very, very difficult. Which is China's Achille's heel. The more you raise standards of living, the more resources have to be devoted merely to satisfying consumer demand. And China also has to be very careful to manage expectations, lest growth not keep pace with desires and prompt a backlash -- worst case, revolution.

It'll be interesting to see which trend wins out.
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