i will not argue off topic - the Egypt attack topic is here: http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10917

on topic, "Why they hate us" Are you a moderator?

Sure, that's part of it. They don't think women should be seen OR heard! In other words, they think women are "unclean." Mohammed Atta left instructions for no woman to be present at his funeral. I guess he was too dumb to realize that once he piloted that JET into the WTC, they'd be nothing left of him to bury!

And of course, you would like to always do what binny boy and the gang demands of you, right????

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

"Good reasons" LiveFree? You think that lists justifies what they do? You're like those on the far right who argue that Eric Rudolph had "good reason" for what he did. Or those who argue that Timonty McVeigh had "good reason" for doing what he did. People with your attitude make me sick!

And back in 1979 while our Embassy workers were being held hostage in Iran, I came face to face with some of this Islamic fundamentalist in the student union lobby at Oklahoma University. They were over here.....taking advantage of our colleges. Many of them were in my husbands engineering classes with him. When I passed through the student union lobby that day, one of them handed me a flyer all about "American Imperialism." Well, I can tell you that when I got back to my class and read it, I was about ready to come unglued. I wanted to go back and say to them: "You do this in YOUR country and you'd have your hands cut off!" I called the President of the University and told him he'd best get those people out of the lobby or that some serious fights were going to break out. I had seen several American students arguing with them over their flyers.

So....you see LiveFree......their attitudes and hate for America goes back a long way allright. (Even though they like to come and take advantage of some of that "American imperalism" themselves!) But UNLIKE you theorize.....none of it is justified or for "good reason.")

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"This is a time for a national imperative not to fail in Iraq." Condoleeza Rice, January 11, 2007

...link didn't work.

thx maze, looks like they moved my topic and thread i started about blasts in Egypt to "funniest things" thread http://www.politicalforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=10812 ..... apparently this is not latest news to neo cons who run this board..... as i was saying there

When asked why he had sexual relations with a Whitehouse intern, Bill Clinton replied, "Because I could."

That's about as good of a reason as any explaining why terrorists murder. People keep acting as if these sub-humans are somehow reasonable people, capable of rational behavior. They are about as reasonable and rational as cockroaches. They are human in name only. They are wholly void of any human thoughts and other human characteristics we typically assume of others. They are the personification of evil. They are evil clothed in human flesh. They lob heads off, hang dead bodies from bridges, drag dead bodies through the streets, and murder children and innocents, because they can. They hate because this is what evil does best.

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topic began with "why they hate us", not why a few of them do terrible things. As Livefree pointed out, they have many good reasons to resent us. Have none of you neocons ever traveled?? "They" are not uniform. Syrians, Palestinians, Saudis and Iraqis do not all have the same world view. Not all are Moslem for that matter. If you travel to many parts of S.America you had best say you are Canadian because many of them hate us there, too- for many good reasons.

If you are speaking about suicide bombers ,than the Israeli military has made a concerted effort to "know thine enemy". They have carefully interviewed those who failed to complete their missions. I heard an Israeli general discussing it on the radio. Some were thoroughly indoctrinated fanatics (like Eric Rudolph, actually). Others had become suicide bombers because a family member had been killed by the Israeli army. I would think that a similar pattern is developing in Iraq along with a developing civil war. But then if you want to know what "they" are thinking and feeling why don't you read about it in their own words: http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/ I highly recommend the June 21 entry in which she explains that while Baghdad is falling apart, the Green Zone is flourishing. They call it The Green Republic and it is a source of consternation. It "symolizes the heart of the occupation and if fortifications and barricades are any indication, the occupation is going to be here for a long time."

An aside: Broncobilly hopes the F.B.I. is monitoring this discussion. Was that a joke or the comment of an aspiring fascist??

Some were thoroughly indoctrinated fanatics (like like neocons on this board, bush administration etc.).

I think that's as plausible as anything else some others have come up with here. I'm sure the above applies to some, though probably not all. I don't think there is any ONE reason, though there might be one that is a bigger factor than some others.

The fanatics within Islam have a lot of hypocritical beliefs (vs. their actions, anyway), but I'm sure there are things about our society that they don't want "polluting" their society. Like some here, I'm sure they (only) see the bad in others, while unable to see the bad in themselves. But yeah, one session of a Girls Gone Wild infomercial probably gives them a fair amount of ammo to back up their distorted view of us.

Because of our size and clout (and our buttinski-ness), our (pop) culture is a bit more in your face than many others. I've learned from associates of mine, who live in other countries, that what people see of the U.S. is quite often not the total picture. But if you're already wound tight and full of flakey ideas, I guess that would be a basis for hatred.

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