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Old 08-01-2005, 09:15 AM
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WASHINGTON - President Bush sidestepped the Senate and installed embattled nominee John Bolton as ambassador to the
United Nations on Monday, ending a five-month impasse with Democrats who accused Bolton of abusing subordinates and twisting intelligence to fit his conservative ideology.

"This post is too important to leave vacant any longer, especially during a war and a vital debate about UN reform," Bush said. He said Bolton had his complete confidence.

Bush put Bolton on the job in a recess appointment — an avenue available to the president when the Congress is in recess. Under the Constitution, a recess appointment during the lawmakers' August break would last until a newly elected Congress takes office in January 2007.
It'll be interesting to see what the fallout is, if any.
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Senate?? We don't need no stinkin'senate!


Thanks for the news, Raytri.
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I believe that should be "steenkin' Senate."
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Default Under the Constitution

"Under the Constitution, a recess appointment during the lawmakers' August break would last until a newly elected Congress takes office in January 2007."

Under the Constitution...

I believe that says it all.
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Default The Senate failed

The role of the Senate is advice and consent. The Senate failed. The Senate failed in doing their Constitution duty to bring Bolton to a vote. That is their job. They didn't do it. If you wish to place blame on anyone, it is the Senate.
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Under the Constitution... I believe that says it all.
No, that says it's legal. It doesn't say there won't be fallout from Senators irritated at being bypassed.
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"...Senators irritated at being bypassed."

They weren't bypassed!!!! They simply failed to do their job!!!
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I'm sure you said the same thing when the Republican Congress held up Clinton's judicial nominees for years.

The Senate has the power to approve the President's choices. Nowhere in the Constitution does it spell out how to do that, or how long it should take. The answers to those questions are up to the Senate. If Bolton does not have enough support to get confirmed, then the Senate, is, in fact, doing its job; they're just not doing it the way the administration would like.
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The Senate's job is to confirm or deny the president's nominees and the decision should take place in a reasonable amount of time. If the Senate refuses to do its job, then it is perfectly appropriate for the president to use recess appointments to fill positions.

The power of a president to make a nomination means nothing if the senate, in whole or in part, can place that nomination in a perpetual holding pattern.

It has always been wrong, it is wrong now, and it will be wrong in the future.

The senate has an absolute duty to give every presidental nominee an up or down vote. No legitimate argument can be made to the contrary.
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I don't disagree that in general nominations deserve an up-or-down vote.

But the framers left the details to politics. If the Senate wants to have rules that let a minority tie it into knots, that's the Senate's right. It's not abuse of power if senators then take advantage of those rules.

The Senate has the right to let nominations languish, at whatever political and practical cost that brings. The president has the right to make recess appointments, at whatever political and practical cost that brings.

I think there is a place for the filibuster, to prevent a simple majority of senators from enacting a radical agenda. I think it has more place in the discussion about judges, who are appointed for life, than it does for ambassadors, who serve at the pleasure of the president.

I just wish, for instance, that criticism of those who oppose the Bolton nomination would center around "the information you seek is not a valid reason for holding up the nomination" instead of "radical senators are destroying the very fabric of the Republic." Likewise, criticism of Bush's recess appointment should center around the political fallout of snubbing the Senate, rather than "an endrun around the Constitution and the legislative process."
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