Iraq is an artificial country anyway so why not break it into three pieces. Iraq is just like the old Yugoslavia which was cobbled together by the winning powers of WW I and all that was accomplished was to create a volcano of un-resolved ethnic conflicts which erupted in violence. You cannot make dissimilar peoples live together unless they decide to themselves. Exceptions of course are Switzerland and the USA both for different reasons.

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Gosh JP you’re right, what would the Prince of Saudi Arabia know about the mindset of the Middle East, he’s only lived there most of his life.

Now Cheney and Bush would know much more about the Middle East and Iraq. Cheney read a book on the subject and Bush also read…er … saw a movie on the subject.


Here’s another ignoramus from Egypt who knows nothing of the Middle East:



http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2005/758/op2.htm

AL Ahram Weekly Opnion.
1 - 7 September 2005



THE END OF ARAB IRAQ

The draft Iraqi constitution is set to break the country into three, pitching ethnic and denominational differences against each other and isolating Arabs, writes Abdallah Al-Ashaal*



If there is conflict between the Muslim and Arab character of Iraq, the authors of the constitution have made it clear how they want this conflict resolved: the majority of the population is Muslim but only a minority belong to the Arab nation. It would be a wonder if Iraq remains in the Arab League, as the constitution patently aims to isolate the country from its Arab environment and as the Arab League Charter stipulates that its members must be Arab states, a character that has cultural, linguistic and ethnic dimensions.

What is certain is that with this constitution, the US has scored an immense success, at great cost to itself, on behalf of Israel. It has totally fragmented Iraq and placed bitter realities before the Arab world.

The writer is former assistant to the Egyptian foreign minister

Is there a reason I should care about Saudi Arabia's opinion about anything?

To me they are really not all that different from Iran or Syria.

The amazingly light casualties from the war in Iraq are stunning! Only about 2000 US Military deaths. That is a minuscule number compared to WWII, or even Viet Nam. And the EXTREMELY LOW civilian casualties are also something to be quite proud of, (Remember that in WWII we bombed at least 600,000 German Civilians to DEATH - and then Nuked Japan).

(1). We have taken out a VICIOUS totalitarian regime that was estimated to have slaughtered about a MILLION civilians over it's 27 year rule (averages out to: 3086 per month). The mass graves Saddam will continue to be uncovered for years to come!

(2). In only 2 short years we have helped to foster a CIVILIAN DEMOCRACY based on the Iraqi peoples own constitutional desires, (not just a clone of the US model). It took Germany 6 years to get this far after WWII.


(3). We have also achieved all our military objectives in Iraq (as/per the Bush Doctrine):
(3A). Ending Saddam's funding of suicide bombers and terrorists.
(3B). Ended Al Qaeda's Iraqi 'safe haven' for training bases as we now know was set up by Saddam as far back as 1994!!!
(3C). Ended the production of chemical weapons in Iraq by capturing ALL WMD manufacturing equipment (still denied by the general media).


Sources: Real life experience boys, try it sometime!

Whether you like Saudi Princes or not, he is telling it like it is. Iraq is a disaster and you people are ignoring it and seeing it through Bush tinted glasses.

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According to whom? You and Bush?

Your million civilian casualties is a joke. Iraq doesn't have the infrastructure for that. That takes a Germany or a Russia, or the US. In fact, if you believe the 100,000 civilian death toll since the beginning of the war attributed to the US, and I do believe those figures, it works out to 3500 civilian deaths a month. Not bad. Something to be proud of.

Brought democracy to Iraq? Yeah right. The only reason any of those polititians are alive is because they live in the green zone. When the US leaves it will become the kill zone and anything built by the US will be torn down. That's if the civil war doesn't start sooner. If it does, all bets are off.

Boy, you and Bush, Mission Accomplished! Ended Saddams funding of suicide bombers and terrorists. Yeah and someone else if funding it now. Nothing accomplished there.

Ended al Qaeda's Iraq's safe haven. Hello. There are no links between al Qaeda and Iraq.

Ended Iraq's production of chemical weapons by capturing all WMD manufacturing equipment. Any WMD equipment was covered in 10 years worth of dust and cobwebs because that's how long it's been since it was used. Sanctions and inspections did work. Unused equipment was captured. Whoopie.

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right, and your math isnt even that good: ~4years=~40months divided by 400 billion spent so far is more like 10 billion/month

rikitz, a slightly off topic question for you:

If Zionists control everything, including the U.S., and the invasion was Zionist planned and backed: Why is Saudi Arabia upset that it's not going well?

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Um...if I would not trust Iran or Syria's word, why would I trust Saudi Arabia's?

That was my point.

Obviously they are all undercover Zionists. You have no idea just how insidious they are.

That's why the entire "fight them there or fight them here" argument is laughable and always was. The first group are only terrorists because we're there. Had we not gone in, they would not be terrorists. So we are essentially creating them to fight them. Great plan.

The second group would likely NEVER have the resources to fight us here, so they took the chance to drive a few hundred miles to kill Americans. And again, many (but certainly not all) of them weren't terrorists before we got there.

The third group would never go to Iraq. They fully plan to attack us right here.

The Iraq war has done nothing whatsoever to fight terror anywhere.

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