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Thread: Debate: Israel – victim or aggressor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    And how many people did we kill after 9-11??? If you attack and start the killing you have to be prepared to accept the consequences. Here's a crying towel for you too.
    I totally agree with this statement.

    Thus Israelis have no cause to be crying all the time about how they are the righteous victims. They started it, theyve been reaping the whirlwind ever since.
    "but it is nevertheless true that it is value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor, therefore, of cultivated land owes to the community a ground-rent, for I know no better term to express the idea by, for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice


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    Quote Originally Posted by creation View Post
    I totally agree with this statement.

    Thus Israelis have no cause to be crying all the time about how they are the righteous victims. They started it, theyve been reaping the whirlwind ever since.
    B.S. Cre.. Your Arab buddies started it in 1920 and have keep it up ever since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    You are not correct. If you are on leave then you are still getting paid your salary and that means you are not fired at all. People who are fired do not get paid. See how easy that is?
    So is a policeman placed on administrative until the situation is solved but if it goes against him he's gone. An officer in the Armed forces is place on the same thing and given a chance to retire instead of facing a full court. So don't sit there and run through you jargon, "Oh, but he was PAID", nonsense when we all know what it means. Out here in the real world it's what we call Fired. The just allowed him to save face, the same way the service does with one of their officers that's stepped over the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    Israel has butchered thousands of CIVILIANS,women and children,innocent women and children and you feel they should kill more. There is something wrong with someone who feels like that.
    Oh, yes, 3rd, keep screeming that and maybe you will srart to believe it after a while. Israel doesn't taget women and children the way your beloved Arab terrorist do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    So is a policeman placed on administrative until the situation is solved but if it goes against him he's gone. An officer in the Armed forces is place on the same thing and given a chance to retire instead of facing a full court. So don't sit there and run through you jargon, "Oh, but he was PAID", nonsense when we all know what it means. Out here in the real world it's what we call Fired. The just allowed him to save face, the same way the service does with one of their officers that's stepped over the line.
    You are not fired until you are fired and you certainly are not fired when you are getting paid and Finkelstein did not do anything wrong so trying to compare him to policemen etc who have done something wrong just shows how weak your silly argument is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    . Israel doesn't taget women and children the way your beloved Arab terrorist do.
    All the evidence says you are wrong. You should just give up because the only people who will believe anything you say are the terminally stupid. You have been proven wrong on virtually everything you have posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    B.S. Cre.. Your Arab buddies started it in 1920 and have keep it up ever since.
    The arabs started it?

    They were only defending their land from an invading army and an immigrant group intent on carving out a new state. Thats what anyone would do and therefore they cannot have started it.

    In fact is there any example in human history you can name where a native people have accepted the division of their land with an immigrant group? Can you name these people beenthere? After all, you claim to have studied history extensively so I expect you could do so easily.

    If not then its logically impossible to conclude that the arabs somehow started this thing.
    "but it is nevertheless true that it is value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor, therefore, of cultivated land owes to the community a ground-rent, for I know no better term to express the idea by, for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenthere View Post
    So is a policeman placed on administrative until the situation is solved but if it goes against him he's gone. An officer in the Armed forces is place on the same thing and given a chance to retire instead of facing a full court. So don't sit there and run through you jargon, "Oh, but he was PAID", nonsense when we all know what it means. Out here in the real world it's what we call Fired. The just allowed him to save face, the same way the service does with one of their officers that's stepped over the line.
    So what situation was NF involved in? What investigation such as a policeman or army officer in your example was NF involved in?

    If we all know what it means, then perhaps you can explain it all to us in detail.

    In the real world it certainly IS NOT what we call fired. But maybe you can explain to us what line NF crossed?

    If cant explain any of the accusations youre making here any further I expect youll do the decent thing and either concede the points or stop spouting baseless accusations. Is that a fair expectation of you?
    "but it is nevertheless true that it is value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property. Every proprietor, therefore, of cultivated land owes to the community a ground-rent, for I know no better term to express the idea by, for the land which he holds." -- Thomas Paine, Agrarian Justice

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    You are not fired until you are fired and you certainly are not fired when you are getting paid and Finkelstein did not do anything wrong so trying to compare him to policemen etc who have done something wrong just shows how weak your silly argument is.
    Hahahahahahahahahaha, I know better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Third Man View Post
    All the evidence says you are wrong. You should just give up because the only people who will believe anything you say are the terminally stupid. You have been proven wrong on virtually everything you have posted.
    Rubbish. I post well known history and you come off the wall with some jerk from out in left field and we're suppose to fall alover our selves saying how right him and you are??? Garbage

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