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Old 08-17-2006, 06:59 AM
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Well, here we go again! Jacques Chirac, who indicated to the UN that he would supply troops to the Lebanese border, is now indicating it will only be a "symbolic force." So, they lied in order to get Israel to stop. And now Chirac is calling on Israel to stop it's blockade of Lebanon as well. Screwed by France once again!!

France considers only symbolic force for UN
By Crispian Balmer

PARIS (Reuters) - France is considering providing only a symbolic force for the United Nations contingent in Lebanon, and not the thousands of troops UN officials had hoped, Le Monde newspaper said on Thursday.

If true, such a move could seriously delay the UN mission, seen as vital to securing peace between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas, or even scupper the whole operation.

Quoting U.N. and diplomatic sources, Le Monde said France might send just a dozen officers and around 200 personnel from an engineering division for the beefed-up UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL).

President Jacques Chirac's office said the military options "were still under review".

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1205082006
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Old 08-17-2006, 07:02 AM
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So, I don't get it. Are you saying the French are any different from "us"?
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:03 AM
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It doesn't say anywhere in that article that France or Chirac promissed it would supply lots of troops. You better find a new source or you're going to look foolish.
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At least France is doing something. 200 troops is not bad, given the US is lucky to commit 200 forces to the entire UN in a year. The US is doing nothing to beef up UNIFIL, despite having the strongest army of any country in history.

So what, France might have fibbed abit to stop civilians from being massacred. Whos complaining, America??? Give me a break!

Anyways, Turkey is in the region and they have tons of available ground forces to commit. Its not like the ceasefire is in jeoprody yet.
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Old 08-17-2006, 10:28 AM
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It doesn't say anywhere in that article that France or Chirac promissed it would supply lots of troops. You better find a new source or you're going to look foolish.
Come on boys......Chrac pulled a fast one. And YES, he did indicate he'd be willing to send military troops. That's why the UN is surprised now that Chirac has reneged on what they thought was going to be a 15,000 strong UN troop levels....supposedly being LED BY FRANCE.

"French reticence to commit to UNIFIL has surprised many UN officials, who had expected Paris's full backing for the operation after the central role French diplomats played in drawing up last week's resolution to end fighting in Lebanon."

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/interna...=1155836309000

And BTW, it seems Chirac has a problem with sending in French troops under UN control!!! HILARIOUS.

[i]"However, Chirac left open the possibility that France might eventually provide more soldiers and said some 1,700 French troops positioned near Lebanon would be made available to the United Nations but would not be placed under UN control."[/i]
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Well, here we go again! Jacques Chirac, who indicated to the UN that he would supply troops to the Lebanese border, is now indicating it will only be a "symbolic force." So, they lied in order to get Israel to stop. And now Chirac is calling on Israel to stop it's blockade of Lebanon as well. Screwed by France once again!!

France considers only symbolic force for UN
By Crispian Balmer

PARIS (Reuters) - France is considering providing only a symbolic force for the United Nations contingent in Lebanon, and not the thousands of troops UN officials had hoped, Le Monde newspaper said on Thursday.

If true, such a move could seriously delay the UN mission, seen as vital to securing peace between Israel and Hizbollah guerrillas, or even scupper the whole operation.

Quoting U.N. and diplomatic sources, Le Monde said France might send just a dozen officers and around 200 personnel from an engineering division for the beefed-up UN Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL).

President Jacques Chirac's office said the military options "were still under review".

http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=1205082006
JP launched the thread titled: Chirac: a Proven Liar
But, when you read the article you discover that no lie was told and no misleading statements were made. This lead to the question: Does JP understand what a lie is?
It would appear that JP becomes hysterical when confronted with particular issues and reacts irrationally. Fortunately, in this case, she provided a link she herself can read in a quiet moment.

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O those slippery Frenchies. They never change do they? Always been a bunch of shameful liars ...

And after everything we did for the in WWII

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Okay Apot.....I realize Chirac is your bud.....and if you think it's not a liar, then that's YOUR opinion.

MY OPINION......and I am entitled to my own, right??????..... is that he's a liar and he knew exactly what he was doing when he LED people at the UN to believe he was going to LEAD on this and would send in troops. What he wanted was to make it look like there was a solution here, so he could get Israel to stop it's offensive against Hezbollah.
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No you misunderstand me - Chirac is a filthy french SOB and I would love to slap him across his face.

He has done many things to deliberatly damage the UK economy - he wants burning at the stake - just like Joan of Arc
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Chirac was a known crook before he was even elected. Massive corruption when he ran Paris.
There was a thing about holding ones nose and votign for him since it was him or LePan(an overt Fascist).
The French had a choice..a crook or a fascist..the took the crook and have probably since wished they picked the fascist.

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As for the main subject here.

What did you expect?
The entire resoultion is a joke. It didntl even mention Hezbollah.

France(Chirac) made a point of tooting its horn..now you see like usual the horns just a toy from a HappyMeal.


Israel should set a timetable..
International forces on the ground removing Hezbollah etc by date x or we resume the conflict with no intention of stopping until we decide we are done.
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