http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6501555.stm

Iran crossed into Iraqs territorial waters and took "captive/hostage/prisoner" 15 UK Sailors/Marines conducting UN sponsored inspections that have been going on for 4 years.

Fine....
"ratchet up" diplomatic pressure with the unmistakable statement that if they are not relased by the end of the week it will be considered an act of war.

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But, I would also like everyone to notice how silent the UN has been.
This is very disturbing to me, not to hear any remarks
from the UN on this issue, after all they were
patrolling in Iraqi waters under a United Nations mandate.

So what is the UN's comment on this issue? if they are
not against this action made by Iran, then who would
ever want to be the inforcers for the UN, after this?

I think for the moment the UK is best to handle this themselves. There was a unanimous vote by the U.N. Security Council on Saturday to impose new sanctions on Iran already. What’s the UN suppose to say to Iran? “Please forget that we just voted to impose new sanctions for the moment and hand back the troops?” Sanctions in the works and a possible military engagement with the UK is enough to get Iran to think straight.

The UN seems to be pretty powerless today. After all, they US was able to invade Iraq without their authorization. The UN still relies on powerful countries to enforce its laws. The UN is not as respected as it used to be.

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Ready, shoot, aim... Have we heard from the Iranians on this incident yet? I was in the Navy - in the Persian Gulf for 18 months. That was back when the US had one ship in the whole area: the only white ship in the Navy. It was a converted seaplane tender (that's old). It was bristling with antennae and parabolic dishes, but our mission was to "show the flag around the Indian Ocean.

You can never know the true mission of any ship. If it is confidential, secret or top secret, every Navy in the whole world will deny any wrongdoing, especially spying. The area where the incident happened is a pretty sensitive area right now. Lots of ship traffic traveling around there, carrying cargo such as petroleum, legal military armaments, and perhaps illegal stuff as well. I'm pretty sure both the Brits and the US both want to know keep track of what types of ships are coming and going in the region.

Don't get me wrong, I'm pretty sure the Iranians took those Brits captive for a purpose. But it is the never ending game of cat and mouse. Isn't the US playing the same game by taking Iranian hostages from the Iran Embassy. Oh, but they were terrorists...or helping terrorists.

Its all a joke. What the he!l are we and the British doing in that part of the world that could be worth all of these diplomatic headaches. Oh yea, looking for terrorists. Or is it trying to stop Iran from "going nuclear". I know it may seem logical to some people, but have you noticed how tensions ratchet up in the whole world when a superpower and her allies start playing Don Quixote?

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hobo,
did you miss the boat? you saying that you don't know why we are in that
area? you forgot what sanctions are against Iran, by the UN and who is
enforcing those sanctions?

Iran already has the USA and Brits in a mode to want to take them down.
and it's funny how these countrys like Iran know this yet they
flirt with danger. Saddam did the same, just look at is end as proof.

I always believe that you get what you earn, or work so hard to get.
Iran could comply and there would be no danger, but as I speak
I believe that Iran will fall before the decade is out.

Iran will give the reason to take them down. thats a given.

Both sides are lying?

The 1975 agreement between Iran and Iraq to settle the border in that area has not been updated by the surveys that were to be carried out every decade.

!985 due to Iran/Iraq war, 1995 due to problems with the peace process after the Iran/Iraq war, 2005 due to US invasion of Iraq.

So the territorial waters are disputed by both side. Now saying that you know exactly where the boundary lies is total BS. Iran cannot claim that and neither can the UK.

When the agreed International survey is completed then we could debate
the whys and wherefores of outrageous actions. Until then no-one can say with any precision how far or on which side of the border anyone was.

How do i know? Because I was involved with surveying the straight for the British Military in the 80's.

take away the line, does not take away the fact that Iran made the first
act of kidnaping, And seeing that they are going to release the women, you
can already see that from their history, they do this just before they keep
the men for more then a year.

If they don't return the men, then Iran is toast, and gave the US and Brits
the excuse to take them down.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6503211.stm

IOW the UK has suspedned most Diplmatic relations with Iran.


http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...257880,00.html

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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"Peace is the highest aspiration of the American People. We will negotiate for it, sacrifice for it, we will never surrender for it, now or ever."
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Iran reported the ship in one location initially that was international waters. Then they reported a different location a second time that was Iranian waters. They are full of crap, let the bombing commence if they don't hand the soldiers over.

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