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Bush called the surge a strategic victory. The surge was intended to bring about political reconciliation. Patraeus calls the political reconciliation insufficient. That's not a "strategic victory." 
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03-20-2008, 09:24 PM
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The only way to parse his words as accurate (I love how his speechmakers always leave some legal loophole) is if you take the last few years in Iraq to not qualify as "major combat operations." But to get into that, you have to start another argument. 'Cause that's what Bush does.
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Lets leave parsing out of it. There are many compilers that don't work correctly.  I may understand your point so we may clarify to each other. Do you think American soldiers are out for the "spoils of war" and have American soldiers always been bent on capturing the "spoils of war"? In all honesty, I have my own questions as to if US citizens think of the US government as imperialists. I also have my questions as to whether the US judicial activists can be thought of as imperialists.
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My point is, and has been, that this is just another case of chicken counting by an executive with no exit strategy.
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Neither would I want him to cause he has revealed some things I dislike in the past 6 years. The "Mission Accomplished" banner you reference, is from the men and women that did it. You got a problem with that?
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Doesn't it up set you that he could be so disingenuous?
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I guess you always knew the hard part would be when the "war was over"? What would you have done differently electo none hacker?
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