You must have dual citizen-ship to be such an expert on both countries.

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You must have dual citizen-ship to be such an expert on both countries.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

Good for us. No need for us to be sycophantic little mini-mes of the US anymore, and certainly no need for us to be in Iraq - no need for anyone to ever have been there, in point of fact.

Howard had his head so far up Bush's arse that I'm surprised Bush didn't have a permanent cough from the eyebrow-tickling. It was a disgrace, embarrassing, shameful and completely against the wishes of the vast majority of Australians.

The suggestion that we want nannying makes no sense, considering that's what you were doing when Howard was in power, and no we are withdrawing somewhat.

As Rudd said when first elected, it is possible to be allied with other nations without being controlled by and tied to them.

He is far from a sissy - and the huge majority of Australians who voted for him are reaping their rewards for doing so.

I note that the US were too pathetic to condemn China for what was happening in Tibet - Rudd did. Oh yeah, to their faces, and in their own language, too. That's hardly the act of a sissy.

Australia is not a warmongering nation whose quest for global hegemony outweighs all other considerations of human rights (or anything else, for that matter). And it was time to throw off the overbearing US mantle and agree to alliance, but not subservience.

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Nor should Australia be subserviante to the UN in a manner that does not allow itself to protect Australia's citizens.

I think we should consider our distinctions between politics and reality here. Concerning Tibet that was politics on our side, not reality. As a Conservative here I can understand why that approach was taken, but it doesn't make it the best decision and probably should be presented to a group of nations other than the UN given some of the UN's failures.

International diplomacy is the key here. McCain has said he would support a league of democracies and it will be a talking point within the campaign. I included this link just to show this has already been identified as an issue.

http://atlanticreview.org/archives/1...mocracies.html

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

I will add that I disagree with someone holding a political office while running for an office of higher power. Politicians should have to relinquish their political office prior to running for a higher political office.

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And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

And he said, Verily I say unto you, No prophet is accepted in his own country.

the iraq war has always been about the US.
so whether its Australian troops or British troops,
they stepped up for us so we didnt have to fight completely alone.
they already proved their loyalty and friendship just by showing up.

so thanks for the help,
and God save the queen.

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Plus, we are constantly being ridiculed for not contributing enough to the world effort, now and throughout history, no matter what we do. If we kept our troops there we'd be sissies because there's only 500 combat troops, if we take them out we're sissies for taking them out.

Can't win no-how, so no point in listening to what anyone else thinks. That certainly is something we learned from the US.

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They are not withdrawing completely and they have not abandoned Iraq.

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest...main-iraq.html
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