Iraqi PM al-Maliki: I want a timetable

Ziggae_6 · #1 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 09:56 AM

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Iraqi PM: I Want a Timetable
by Jonathan Stein on 07/08/08 at 6:09 AM

What degree of agency do we give the Iraqi government? The AP:

Iraq's prime minister said Monday his country wants some type of timetable for a withdrawal of American troops included in the deal the two countries are negotiating.
It was the first time that Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has explicitly and publicly called for a withdrawal timetable — an idea opposed by President Bush.
He offered no details. But his national security adviser, Mouwaffak al-Rubaie, told The Associated Press that the government is proposing a timetable conditioned on the ability of Iraqi forces to provide security.

This is more a change in rhetoric than a change in substance. A timetable for withdrawal tied to unspecified benchmarks of Iraqi troop readiness is a recipe for staying in the country indefinitely. But it does represent a break from the Bush Administration, and if Maliki backs up this new language with specifics, we'll have a situation on our hands.

Obama, for the record, wants combat troops out in 16 months. I wonder if in his upcoming trip to Iraq, he'll meet with Maliki.
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Bush's statement on the sovereignty of the Iraqi government after the jump:

We are there at the invitation of the Iraqi government. This is a sovereign nation. Twelve million people went to the polls to approve a constitution. It’s their government’s choice. If they were to say, leave, we would leave. (May 24,2007 Press Conference)

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog

Swede · #2 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 10:05 AM

Ziggae_6 -- I'm shocked by this story. I thought a timetable was a very bad thing. Just look what our Dear Leader said last year about a war timetable.

What is Maliki?? Some kind of surrender monkey?

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Bush Denounces Iraq War Timetable
By William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 24, 2007; 4:22 PM

Stepping into an increasingly personal dispute over a crucial war-funding bill, President Bush today denounced congressional Democrats for approving legislation that contains a timetable for bringing U.S. combat forces home from Iraq, and he repeated his vow to veto it on grounds that it would "embolden our enemies," undermine troops in the field and threaten Americans' safety at home.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...042400216.html

MasTequila · #3 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 10:06 AM

So because of the efforts of American Hero's and the persistant support of a great American President the Iraqi people now have the right to control their own destiny? I don't see a problem with that.

Swede · #4 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MasTequila

So because of the efforts of American Hero's and the persistant support of a great American President the Iraqi people now have the right to control their own destiny? I don't see a problem with that.

Why are timetables proposed by dems a "threat to Americans' safety at home" (according to Dubya) but if they are proposed by Maliki you "don't see a problem.."? Hmmm... you wouldn't have a double standard, would you?

We will see what your political messiah has to say about this. It will be interesting whether he accuses Maliki of "emboldening our enemies".

MasTequila · #5 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Swede

Why are timetables proposed by dems a "threat to Americans' safety at home" (according to Dubya) but if they are proposed by Maliki you "don't see a problem.."? Hmmm... you wouldn't have a double standard, would you?

We will see what your political messiah has to say about this. It will be interesting whether he accuses Maliki of "emboldening our enemies".

A timetable decided upon that is determined by the Iraqi government takin control isn't a problem. A date published for political gain by a party of surrender (democrats) that puts the Iraqi people and our Heros in harms way is a problem.

farmer_fred · #6 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MasTequila

A timetable decided upon that is determined by the Iraqi government takin control isn't a problem. A date published for political gain by a party of surrender (democrats) that puts the Iraqi people and our Heros in harms way is a problem.

Even if they are the same chronology?

When did "hero" become a proper noun?

lavell12 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Swede

Why are timetables proposed by dems a "threat to Americans' safety at home" (according to Dubya) but if they are proposed by Maliki you "don't see a problem.."? Hmmm... you wouldn't have a double standard, would you?

We will see what your political messiah has to say about this. It will be interesting whether he accuses Maliki of "emboldening our enemies".

b/c the reasons are totally different. maliki is saying this b/c of progress and he wants a vague time table to show the progress that iraq has made, meaning the iraqi arm is standing up on its own. while the dems just want to get the hell out with their time table. one big difference.

DuH2 · #8 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 02:01 PM

Funny.

Now Iraq is sovereign to the kooky left who just YESTERDAY said Iraq was occupied.......amnesia routine in less then 24 hours?

Anway...

1. Its not complete withdrawal in anyway. It is absolutely nothing like what the surrender to the terrorists leftist want.

2. Its not Iraqis saying abandon us to our mutual enemies like you lefty types want.

Stop distorting meaning.
OH thats right...that would entail not lying and that will never happen with you people.

Hey I know tell us how you all support Afghanistan...I'm sure somebody is stupid enough to buy it.

Ziggae_6 · #9 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DuH2

Funny.

Now Iraq is sovereign to the kooky left who just YESTERDAY said Iraq was occupied.......amnesia routine in less then 24 hours?

Anway...

1. Its not complete withdrawal in anyway. It is absolutely nothing like what the surrender to the terrorists leftist want.

2. Its not Iraqis saying abandon us to our mutual enemies like you lefty types want.

Stop distorting meaning.
OH thats right...that would entail not lying and that will never happen with you people.

Hey I know tell us how you all support Afghanistan...I'm sure somebody is stupid enough to buy it.

Whoa now, why does Iraq need an "agreement" since they are a sovereign nation? Why doesn't Malarki just order us to leave if he wants since this a sovereign nation?

Because its an occupation! Bush made the statement that its a sovereign nation and now al-Maliki is pushing him. Somebody miss a payoff somewhere? al-Maliki got to push now because the next administration may not be so generous. Plus al-Maliki wants to look like a strong leader for the upcoming Iraqi elections instead of just an American puppet.

redphish · #10 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 02:45 PM

He is saying that to appear to the Iraqi people that he is running the country. He knows better than anyone that the Bush administration has never had any intention of leaving.

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