Thread: raising taxes on alcohol and tobacco products

Many of these intakes are un-needed in society and cause problems for the user both in bodily health and actions.
Alcohol and tobacco both are un-needed in society. What good comes from such indulgences? None, however economist would disagree because a great amount of money is contributed to the economy by those who purchase these products. The vast majority of effects the products have on people are negative. Alcohol impairs judgments and mobility, causes liver cancer, and heightens certain emotions. Tobacco restricts the respiratory system, causes lung or oral cancer. Specialists have, many times, stated that smoking takes years off one’s life. Deaths from tobacco are not only of the smoker but also those around them, from second and third hand smoke. The products are the corruption of the body and of society.
Taxes would be raised and customers would realize how much money they are spending on these goods. Many would buy these things much less or stop altogether; eventually the tax would keep getting higher until the market is so low that these products are taken off. This is a less aggressive act against the problem of alcohol and tobacco.
Tobacco and alcohol are not a positive influence on society and only offer money in return, but is money worth the deaths and corruption of innocent people? The goal that will hopefully be achieved with the increase of the taxation on these harmful products is the annexation of them. This will benefit generations to come.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Many of these intakes are un-needed in society and cause problems for the user both in bodily health and actions.

Define "problem".

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Alcohol and tobacco both are un-needed in society.

"Un-needed" for what?

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

What good comes from such indulgences? None,

Prove it.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

The vast majority of effects the products have on people are negative.

But not all, huh?

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Alcohol impairs judgments and mobility, causes liver cancer, and heightens certain emotions.

Some people have the problem of judging too much.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Specialists have, many times, stated that smoking takes years off one’s life.

Oooh, specialists!

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Deaths from tobacco are not only of the smoker but also those around them, from second and third hand smoke.

Suicide is a right.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

The products are the corruption of the body and of society.

What is "society"?

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Taxes would be raised and customers would realize how much money they are spending on these goods.

Taxation is theft.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Tobacco and alcohol are not a positive influence on society and only offer money in return, but is money worth the deaths and corruption of innocent people?

I don't know, you're the one in favour of taxation.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

Many of these intakes are un-needed in society and cause problems for the user both in bodily health and actions.
Alcohol and tobacco both are un-needed in society. What good comes from such indulgences? None, however economist would disagree because a great amount of money is contributed to the economy by those who purchase these products. The vast majority of effects the products have on people are negative. Alcohol impairs judgments and mobility, causes liver cancer, and heightens certain emotions. Tobacco restricts the respiratory system, causes lung or oral cancer. Specialists have, many times, stated that smoking takes years off one’s life. Deaths from tobacco are not only of the smoker but also those around them, from second and third hand smoke. The products are the corruption of the body and of society.
Taxes would be raised and customers would realize how much money they are spending on these goods. Many would buy these things much less or stop altogether; eventually the tax would keep getting higher until the market is so low that these products are taken off. This is a less aggressive act against the problem of alcohol and tobacco.
Tobacco and alcohol are not a positive influence on society and only offer money in return, but is money worth the deaths and corruption of innocent people? The goal that will hopefully be achieved with the increase of the taxation on these harmful products is the annexation of them. This will benefit generations to come.

It sounds like you go to the same church as Adolph Hitler.

problem= disease, accidents, addicts, murders, rapes, etc.

"un-needed"= what benifet comes from these products? it doesn't improve your health in any way, it doesn't help your job, or help in any way.

prove it= Experts estimate alcohol is responsible for at least 33,000 deaths in the UK each year. including damage to an unborn child, liver disease, osteoporosis (thinning of the bones), pancreatitis, stomach ulcers, infertility, heart disease, raised blood pressure, stroke, dementia and brain damage.


It can also lead to an increased risk of a variety of cancers, particularly breast cancer and cancer of the gullet. It is also frequently associated with mental health problems, such as depression and anxiety.

http://www.drinkaware.co.uk/facts/fa...nd-your-health

As a smoker, you're at risk for cancer of the mouth. Tobacco smoke can also cause gum disease, tooth decay .Hydrogen cyanide and other chemicals in the smoke attack the lining of the bronchi, inflaming them and causing that chronic smoker's cough. Because the bronchi are weakened, you're more likely to get bronchial infections.The effects of smoking on your heart are devastating. Nicotine raises blood pressure and makes the blood clot more easily. Carbon monoxide robs the blood of oxygen and leads to the development of cholesterol deposits on the artery walls. All of these effects add up to an increased risk of heart attack.The tars in smoke can trigger cancer of the esophagus and throat. Smoking causes increased stomach acid secretion, leading to heartburn and ulcers. Smokers have higher rates of deadly pancreatic cancer. Many of the carcinogens from cigarettes are excreted in the urine where their presence can cause bladder cancer, which is often fatal. High blood pressure from smoking can damage the kidneys.

http://www.quitsmoking.com/kopykit/reports/body.htm

emotions= more of the stronger emotions such as anger, sadness, and glee

suicide is a right= suicide is wrong! it would not happen if people had help, alcohol makes only worsens their saddnes.

society= everybody, the people around you. middle class, upper class, and lower

taxation is needed, how else would a country stand? i would rather take alcohol and tobacco away without the taxation but that would cause an uproar.

Frankly, if some imbecile wants to smoke and their second hand smoke isn't effecting others I say go ahead and risk serious medical issues. Same with alcohol. If someone is so stupid that their willing to risk their health by the abuse of alcohol have at it. As long as they don't drink and drive. Otherwise, I couldn't care less.

Originally Posted by xsited1

It sounds like you go to the same church as Adolph Hitler.

Hitler was a smart man. i am not a nazi and i dont believe in everything he did, because he was corrupt but he did have a few smart ideas.

what is wrong with abolishing corruption? do you think alcohol and tobacco is needed? what about drugs, are those needed in society?

Originally Posted by Jack Ridley

Suicide is a right.

Since when?

Of course, taxes were intended to force conformity to government dictated behavior. If the government wants you to quit smoking, buy a house, get married, have health insurance then they will force you to pay them money if you fail to comply with their wishes.

That and everything should be banned by some level of government. Take down that flag, paint your house the approved color, don't have regularly scheduled meetings in your home, don't say that word, fasten that seat belt, pull up those pants and so forth and so on.

Now, we will all fall out at 6 a.m. for our aerobic exercises led by Comrade Fonda or Uberstandarfuerher Ed Schultz.

we're not talking about conformity,we're talking about tobacco and alcohol. i would much rather just make them illegal, and i only say tax them because it is a less aggressive reform.

Originally Posted by Tribearer_Eko

we're not talking about conformity,we're talking about tobacco and alcohol. i would much rather just make them illegal, and i only say tax them because it is a less aggressive reform.

Ayuh,... So why are you so concerned about what other people are doing,....

Other than wanting to be in Control...

In the USA, alcohol was made illegal in the last century,...
It didn't work out so well, did it,..??