The drug laws have failed miserably in the United States of America. Drugs should be legalized completely. It is your body, therefore you should be allowed to do whatever the hell you want with it. People shouldn't have to be bossed around by cops and chubby little old men crammed in an office somewhere giving out orders to control the society.

Not everyone who uses drugs is an unproductive, lazy, stupid, accident prone, loser. The law treats everyone who uses like they are. We all agree that addiction is terrible for your health and that drugs will damage your body, but it doesn't mean that if someone recreationally uses that they are harming their body that much. Seriously, someone needs to stand up to these people who are enforcing the war against drugs.

Let's say you are a charitable, smart, hard working, honest, and decent American who is beneficial to society in so many ways. Suppose that person were to take a line of coc...ONE LINE...that person would be punished severely! And if the drug laws were stricty enforced 24/7 to everyone who ever did drugs, hell, we'd all be in jail. Or at least 99% of us. That's a lot of (*)(*)(*)(*) people who are going to jail for this. So many people use drugs...why can't we just learn to accept that and stop treating everyone like they deserve to be locked away. Prisons are meant to lock up people who are dangerous. Is that charitable person I mentioned above dangerous? NO!!!!

Fine. Let's legalize all drugs.

However, let's make a compromise, before you get baked...

1. ALL employers have the right to refuse to hire you. Not everyone wants a pothead on their payroll, much less a crackhead, and they shouldn't be forced to hire you.

2. Commit a crime while baked? Hope you haven't made plans in the next few years, 'cause it's automatic jail time.

3. Us clean folks would like our health care providers to refuse to cover you. I don't want my money going towards fixing your broken ass, because you did something stupid while on the ganja or on crack.

And let the same go for anyone who consumes alcohol.

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LET ME SEE YOUR WAR FACE!!!

Exactly.

One person's "freedom" shouldn't infringe on someone else's.

That is totally stupid...either you legalize and control it like other substances...or you dont. no specialized laws...then it becomes "discrimination"....that is anti-constitutional.

how about this:

1.) All employers have a right not to hire anyone they think wont fit the job...if someone is an addict, alcoholic, etc. either it shows and comes thru, or it doesnt...just like now. Employers could care less, they would be more likely not to want a dull, unmotivated, complacent employee.

2.) Commit a crime at all, then go thru due process...that is what most developed country's federal constitutions say...otherwise its unfair discrimination. You cant make special ammendments due to a substance....one atom or less gives you jail time? stupid statement.

3.) it is embarrassing and shameful that health care isnt a legal requirement in the USA as it is in most developed and many 3rd worlds. USA currently ranks 58th in the world in health care based on availability, quality and current technology. In fact, people die in the US regularly from things that they havent in Cuba in over 30 years. EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO HEALTH CARE! USA is behind in the world and is less sophsiticated because of this.

4.) I would like to see your views on alcohol consumption, coffee, cigarettes/tobacco, chemical processes in food, refined sugar, Genetic Crops, chemical preservatives in foods, air quality, etc. etc. which are proven to cause not only health problems but behavioural differentials and/or disorders as well.

(otherwise, what you suggest is somewhat Stalinistic and from a very naive perspective.)

The easiest way to check is with a drug screen, which employees use now. I'd rather refuse to hire someone who fails a drug screen than to find out a week later that he's a doper when he stoned and drops a pallet of lumber on one of my sober employees.



We already have laws like that:

If you are seen weaving in and out of traffic and you are sober, you get a ticket. If you are seen weaving in and out of traffic and you are drunk, you get taken to jail.


Health care is available to EVERYONE.

Prove it.

Oh, here comes another 'Cuba is better than the US' myth.


Who's stopping them?






Ah, well now we know what your excuse is.


His suggestions were reasonable and I agree with them fully. Calling someone naive simply because you disagree with them is moronic.

As far as being Stalinistic?

its naive to think you will ever pass a discriminating set of laws that wont be challenged, overturned, result in mistrials, etc. I stand behind my comments...that is the difference between people who sit in bars and around their dinner tables talking a big game with very little knowledge about them to those responsible to ascertaining information and making objective decisions based on such information as well as within the current laws.

"Ah, well now we know what your excuse is." means what? 1.) "we" suggest you are schizophrenic, so I dont take it seriously. 2.) pointless, adolescent and immature remarks meant to be insulting is that of Yahoo chat rooms with other such mentalities. If you remain on a level of respect and maturity, you will be greeted in recompensence. Do you really need to lower yourself to such a level of insiginifcant mediocrity with those you don't agree with? again the difference between those that do and those that dont.


btw, "prove it"...lets call it the AMA and WHO facts...

its not a matter of opinion, its called constitutional rights.

btw, i used cuba, rather than other countries, due to their meager existence is ranking higher in some areas than a vastly wealthy country like that of the USA for profound contrast....get it? the point isnt about who is better, etc. I like dealing in facts and base my opinions on the same. dont read between the lines...you obviously are missing the content.

are you another, blinded by nationalistic urban legend?

Most developed countries are moving toward decriminalization of drugs. Except in the US most leaders and experts have realized that treating drugs as a health issue instead of a legal issue actually gets results and clears the prisons of small time recreational users.

If we treat it like we treat alcohol there is no need to have special laws. Employers don't need to test, but can easily have the same rules as alcohol. That is, if you are on it at work your fired. Most other "crimes: are already covered by the law. For instance driving under the influence covers, well, driving under the influence. It shouldn't matter whether that influence is pot or beer.

So we save money on the war against drugs, we clear out our prisons, we can tax drugs, we can better control drugs, and we weaken the drug cartels that cause violence on our streets. OR, we feel morally superior to drug users and put them in jail.

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God only knows what you're babbling about this time.



Let me break it down for you:

No US citizen has a 'Right' to health care.

Every US citizen has access to health care.

Every drug has different effects, treating each drug exactly the same way we treat alcohol is like treating cancer the same way you treat a cold.

Condoning drug use as a society is detrimental to it's existence. Perhaps you didn't know this, but many currently illicit drugs were legal at one time in the US and there were all sorts of problems with them.