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Old 04-09-2008, 05:45 AM
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Do what australia does force the little bastards to finish school. In australia you have to be in some kind of formal education (high school, traineeship, apprentaship (my spelling shames me) or in full time employment) until your 17 1/2. Gives them a good start and prevents alot of them from simple dropping into unemployment when they turn 18.
I say force 2 years of military service that begins when schooling is over. That will teach them respect for the country and those that don't graduate would make a good shield for the real soldiers.
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now your thinkin! (oww and it was 15 not 18 from that post before)
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What's wrong is the overall break down of how America as society perceives its responsibilities. We have parents who don't care and are not involved. We have a large influx of students who are not disciplined and do not care, partly due to their parents.
Would you have any statistics on that?
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We have media that glorifies sex, violence, and drugs over anything that could be considered moderately intelligent.
True, in my view, though "60-Minutes" is a wonderful exception.
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How many kids are raised by a single parent? How many parents divorce and go their separate ways?
Surely it is only a minority of kids who come from "single-moms". Would you have any statistics? And also why would being raised by a single-mom automatically make you unfit for school?
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We live in a broken culture that wants to blame all their problems on someone else. Parents blame teachers, teachers blame salaries, kids blame the teachers. If people are going to continue to play the blame game, this will only get worse. A parent who complains about their son or daughter's inability to read, needs to remember that if they can read, they should be doing something about it. What does it say about parents now a days who let their children get that far in life as a dummy?
I really wonder if your portrail concurs with most American families.
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I would say that a major issue is that schools have been spending less time on other activities. Music, Art, and Gym are courses that can really draw the students attention and keep the mind active. Keep the kids interested in what they're doing at school and they may just sick around.

I've heard that some schools in the states started dropping those courses to focus more time on Math, Science, and English. If that's true, I would say it was a big mistake.

Edit: Even courses like Shop, Cooking, Electronics, are very beneficial. Having one of those courses as mandatory per semester would be great. It was like that for me in junior high and I loved it.
Uh, Math and Science are the courses that you need to survive in the technological marketplace.
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Uh, Math and Science are the courses that you need to survive in the technological marketplace.
Well of course. I'm not implying the removal of them. But if a school were only have those two subjects, the grades would probably be poor. Variety is the spice of life!
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Uh, Math and Science are the courses that you need to survive in the technological marketplace.
If those are the only classes you have, you'll have a hard time in a technological marketplace. They might be the majority of what you need, but you still have to think creatively and communicate clearly. Language and philosophy/social sciences go a long way, even for the nerds.
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Would you have any statistics on that?

True, in my view, though "60-Minutes" is a wonderful exception.

Surely it is only a minority of kids who come from "single-moms". Would you have any statistics? And also why would being raised by a single-mom automatically make you unfit for school?

I really wonder if your portrail concurs with most American families.
26 percent of U.S. children under the age of 18 lived in a single-parent home according to the 2002 Census. Since this number has been growing it's probably up to almost 1/3 if not there by now. For minorities it is almost double that number.

A single parent is more likely to be stretched thin with their time because all things equal they have half the income of two parent family. This may require more working hours to support their children. If you look at the link below, the median income of a single mother is $25,500, which in my mind is hardly enough for just the parent to get by. This also reduces any chance of receiving aid for college through parent assistance. Statistics also show that children born with single parents are twice as likely to have a child before 20 as well. The overall data seems to suggest that children born form single families are more likely to find themselves in similar financial difficulty for adopting the same circumstances as their parent.

If you want more facts just go here with links to data as references.

http://www.pobronson.com/factbook/pages/43.html

The main issue I have with single parents is that they dig themselves a hole financially and then feel as if it is their right to be granted assistance from the government. If someone wants to be a single parent, so be it, but don't come crying to the government when they can't handle it. It also seems to be common within poor communities or those in poverty. It basically encourages a welfare state.

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i graduated from highschool 2 years ago. when i was a freshman, my class size was almost 2000 kids in a school of 3000. by my senior year, there were less than 400 of us left. and my school was graded as a "B" school. i cant imagine how the schools on the ghetto side of town that were "D-" managed to graduate anyone.

thats not the only problem. the classes are ridicolously dumbed down. they actually have levels for how dumb you are so you can still graduate. it pissed me off so much because i had to take pre AP and AP classes just to get a "descent" eduacation. i hated having to sit through general classes because it was like sitting in the middle of a farm with farm animals all around and the "teacher"(the teachers were a joke) trying to teach the pig how to talk and me having to sit through it.

school is a joke. they need to either kick the retards(closest description of how stupid they really are) or keep them back until they learn the stuff.
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