The US military is all-volunteer, is it not? Those who join, do so of their own free will, do they not? Those who serve are willing to put their lives on the line to protect the others of your society, who didn't join or weren't able to, are they not?

Universal healthcare is likewise the taking care of others of your society, who can't do so themselves, only this commitment of caring for your society only requires you to pay a little money. It doesn't require you to risk your life.

There are only 548.9 billion reasons why the military wouldn't happen if it wasn't for the government.

It does not have the free rider problem. People who don't pay won't benefit from those who do, so there is no market externality and no reason for the government to intervene in the economy.

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"It is extremely difficult for our contemporaries to conceive of the conditions of free banking because they take government interference with banking for granted and as necessary"

-- Ludwig von Mises

Since you brought up the military being all volunteer we'll expound upon that idea. When someone joins the military they do so of they're own free will, where as paying for someone else to have health insurance will not, you'll be forced at the point of a gun to pay for someone else to have things. Doing for people, who can fend for themselves breeds dependency.


(Don't think there's a gun pointed at you? Stop paying your taxes for long enough and see who will eventually show up.)

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If it comes to that, they are. We have a draft for that purpose.

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Liberals believe it is okay to kill babies, but not terrorists.

democrats believe it is okay to taser a 10 year old if this stance will get their guy elected.

Yes it is. What's your point? Universal health care basically forces you to pay.
You are not forced to join the military. Unless there is a draft of course.


A little money? You have to pay for the health care either way. The government isn't going to pull money out of its ass so you can live. They're going to raise your income tax, probably a good 40%-50%.

Not only that, but can you name me three systems or organizations with a socialist set up that are even sufficient?

And you also realize that by killing the health care system we have now will result in sky rocketing unemployment rates, do you not?

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-Dave Mustaine

Then so must all public health issues. Cure cancer and Ebola yourself, mofos!

If this was intended to be a thoughtful rebuttal...

.. you failed.

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Now Fred, you're forgetting the first cardinal rule of conservatism. Everything is "personal responsibility", that is, until it happens to the conservative. Then he's holding his hand out for everyone else to bail his butt out.

Notice how tort reform is always high on the list of what needs to be fixed. Apparently "personal responsibility" doesn't apply to people and institutions that have the power to permanently maim patients via medical mistakes and goofs with powerful drugs. Heaven forbid they should be responsible for it. The patient should have just learned to operate on himself, and paid for access to drug interaction software on his own. And everyone needs a chemistry lab in their homes to detect foreign substances in their medications. It's just ridiculous to expect safe drugs for the manufacturers, especially since we're only paying the highest prices for pharmaceuticals in the entire world.

If the government would just stay out of health care, the entire population would be healthier. Everyone who got sick would simply die. No more unhealthy living people. Problem solved.

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Member of the vast Radical Middle conspiracy.

There is a special place in hell for "me-too" pseudo-conservative hypocrites.

In America, we SUE them. Companies don't want to get sued. Solution, company takes responsibility for its actions or else loses millions to the ones it harmed.

Is that really the best you can come up with?

If there is an economic opportunity, some entrepreneur will come to meet the demand. If the demand is for responsible and effective healthcare, then that is what they will provide for their paying patients.

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"It is extremely difficult for our contemporaries to conceive of the conditions of free banking because they take government interference with banking for granted and as necessary"

-- Ludwig von Mises

Ahh lawsuits the great equiliser in the capitalist system.. god bless it!

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