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think about it: evolution is the belief of SCIENCE. in school, evolution is taught in a SCIENCE class, not a truth class or something. besides, schools don't force you to believe anything, they teach you facts and get you to develop your own opinion. the only problem is that teachers, being in unions, teach liberal beliefs.
According to Ann Coulter, "Liberals creation myth is Charles Darwin's theory of evolution"

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According to Ann Coulter, "Liberals creation myth is Charles Darwin's theory of evolution"
Well, that settles it, then.... If a screaming publicity whore says it, it must be true.
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i don't think evolution should be taught in schools. It take more faith to believe in evolution then it does to believe in god. Evolution believes that a rock became an animal such as a tadpole then it became another animal over thousands of years and if that was so how would that animal either live for 1000 years or mate with it self and how would sea animals become land animals or vise versa how would it have gills and be able to breathe air. Its so much easier to believe that there was a creator, thats why i don't think evolution should be taught in schools.
This is a fascinating subject one that I take personal interest in all the time because I am a scientist but also I am very religious. I believe that God might have used evolution to bring the world into being. Think about the accounts of moses and how they correlate to science if one was viewing it through Moses' eyes. (Remember they related everything they saw to stuff that they knew)

"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth" it is common knowledge that heaven at this time was believed to be the sky so substitute. " in the beginning God created the sky and the earth" what do scientists describe earth as when it finally cooled? A large mass of land with volcanic clouds the earth and the sky respectively.

"And god said let there be light and there was light" Well when the clouds started to thin and the sun started to shine through light would appear wouldn't it?

"...and god divided the light from the darkness" Obviously when the line of night crossed the view of Moses (We can assume he had an omniscient point of view)

"And god said let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters" well first we can assume that water existed from the period in the history of the earth that is described as rain for thousands of years. Then volcanic activity raised vapor from the midst of the waters and separated them into their own areas water vapor for clouds "Heaven" and water for earth.

"And God said, let the waters under heaven" (the ocean) "Be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear" So volcanic activity finally pushed its way up to the surface and created the land mass known as pangea. Now remember that a celestial day is the equivilent of 1000 years of our time and during all this time things had the ability to "evolve" in the oceans all under Gods supervision but invisible to Moses.

"And God said let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed... and it was so." well at this time the earth had all it needed to start supporting life so grass grew and seeds started to appear with trees and so on. All still while the clouds were covering the sun and stars and so on but to a far less extent.

"And God made two great lights the greater light to rule the day" (The sun finally breaking through the clouds) "and the lesser light to rule the night" (the moon became visible too)

"And god said let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life" The ocean is the cradel of life and has been for a while now according to scientists. This proves it in the Bible. So all while Moses was seeing the clearing of the atmosphere and the growth of plants the more complex organisms had time to grow capable of living on land.

"And god said let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind..." the evolution of the species that allowed them to best adapt to their environment.

"And God said Let us make man in our image after our likeness...male and female created he them" to this day there is no scientific proof that man has evolved from any species in earths history he is unique. This is the one act of creation that is not founded by science as we can't find the common ancestor.

I do not say we evolved from monkeys as that is absurd but there is a basis for evolution in religion and science. (Just a thought by me no offense intended)
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Umh....I've never heard that theory...can you elaborate? Are you sure you're not thinking of something magical like invisible beings in the sky, burning bushes that talk to people, pregnant virgins and Jewish zombies?
Magical nonsense humans do not know all of the laws of science that exist in the universe so how can we say that one can't bend light around him to be unseeable to those around him. whose to say that god isn't a ventriloquist and pregnant virgins are more popular nowadays with in vetro cell fertilization (I am sure god knows this better than we do) And what is the exact definition of death I am sure if it is a lack of electricity or a stoppage of the heart or mind that a master scientist (one who knows all laws) could easily reverse it. (Just a thought)
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here's something to make you think for all you christian creationists: God is wise and all knowing. so would God create a static world one where life could develop on its own and improve itself? the latter seems to be more logical based on my understanding of christianity.
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here's something to make you think for all you christian creationists: God is wise and all knowing. so would God create a static world one where life could develop on its own and improve itself? the latter seems to be more logical based on my understanding of christianity.
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we believe that god made the earth so that he could oversee whats happening without having to intervene incessantly.
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i don't think evolution should be taught in schools. It take more faith to believe in evolution then it does to believe in god. Evolution believes that a rock became an animal such as a tadpole then it became another animal over thousands of years and if that was so how would that animal either live for 1000 years or mate with it self and how would sea animals become land animals or vise versa how would it have gills and be able to breathe air. Its so much easier to believe that there was a creator, thats why i don't think evolution should be taught in schools.
It does however open children's minds to other possibilities, and it allows them to choose. I don't agree with all of it, but if I didn't learn about it, I wouldn't know what it was I was against.
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i don't think evolution should be taught in schools. It take more faith to believe in evolution then it does to believe in god. Evolution believes that a rock became an animal such as a tadpole then it became another animal over thousands of years and if that was so how would that animal either live for 1000 years or mate with it self and how would sea animals become land animals or vise versa how would it have gills and be able to breathe air. Its so much easier to believe that there was a creator, thats why i don't think evolution should be taught in schools.
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evolution are science an d this are why it are subjket i n school. this dont take faith t o believe i n evolution. créationisme are religieus an d many person want this subjket i n school. this are wrong thing t o do becuase this should be lehren i n the church or at home with parents. school should lehren science an d not créationisme that are different person religieus.
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evolution are science an d this are why it are subjket i n school. this dont take faith t o believe i n evolution. créationisme are religieus an d many person want this subjket i n school. this are wrong thing t o do becuase this should be lehren i n the church or at home with parents. school should lehren science an d not créationisme that are different person religieus.
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