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Although there both theories really we got to teach our kids how we came to be and evolution fits far better then intelligent design ever could..
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its being taught as proof, if you dont believe in it youre looked upon as if youre an unintelligent religious radical, the science comunity is embracing it while theres no proof yet they shun intelligent design like its an impossibility, schools show only one point of view and children are taught that intelligent design is false. is that not enough to anger someone?
Evolution is based on science
Intelligent design isn't.

It is as simple as that. If you want to teach intelligent design - fine, just don't pretend it is a science.

I'm not saying either is right, or better or whatever - just that one is based on science and the other isn't. Faith and science are very different things. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive. They are different.
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The first quote that you replied to in your post avoids the substance of the points that I made in reply to the other poster. In fact, it would be better for you to go back and read-consider the points that he made which I was replying to. That way you won't be arguing against your own imagination. As for the rest of your post, in reply to you, I will simply refer you back to post #28 in this thread and my last post where you will find your answers if you would read it more carefully and thoughtfully.

If you are incapable of honest dialog, then we are both waisting our time.

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That's fine. I read the posts. I was responding to your false logic and PRATT's that you were using to "disprove" evolution. If you don't want to (or are incapable of) arguing against them, then I will simply accept that you concede.
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Evolution is based on science
Intelligent design isn't.

It is as simple as that. If you want to teach intelligent design - fine, just don't pretend it is a science.

I'm not saying either is right, or better or whatever - just that one is based on science and the other isn't. Faith and science are very different things. They are not necessarily mutually exclusive. They are different.
oooooooo .......... let me tremble!

SCIENCE .... {{{YAWN}}}

and WHAT EXACT PROOF does science have as to WHERE man came from??

I want to see the actual MISSING LINK - until then it is ONLY B.S.
basely equivalent to those scientists who used to say the universe evolved around the flat earth ...

Believe what you want - just don't force feed me that stuff ...

I might be the type who would personally help you find out for yourself if there is a maker or not ...
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oooooooo .......... let me tremble!

SCIENCE .... {{{YAWN}}}

and WHAT EXACT PROOF does science have as to WHERE man came from??

I want to see the actual MISSING LINK - until then it is ONLY B.S.
basely equivalent to those scientists who used to say the universe evolved around the flat earth ...

Believe what you want - just don't force feed me that stuff ...

I might be the type who would personally help you find out for yourself if there is a maker or not ...
If you want EXACT PROOF - you wont find it in science. "Science" is just a way of thinking. ie. the development of hypotheses and the collection of evidence to support these hypotheses.

You are right to be angry is anyone tries to "force feed" you science as truth. Of course you are free to believe what you want - and when it comes to matters of whether there is an omniopotent creator or not - faith can probably provide just as many answers as science can (or can't).

But, there are those here that have argued that intelligent design be taught as an alternative to evolution. That is fine, so long as nobody pretends that intelligent design is a "scientific" theory. It isn't.

Evolution is based on the scientific method - intelligent design is based on faith. As I wrote earlier - I am making no judgement as to what is "better".
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If you want EXACT PROOF - you wont find it in science. "Science" is just a way of thinking. ie. the development of hypotheses and the collection of evidence to support these hypotheses.

You are right to be angry is anyone tries to "force feed" you science as truth. Of course you are free to believe what you want - and when it comes to matters of whether there is an omniopotent creator or not - faith can probably provide just as many answers as science can (or can't).

But, there are those here that have argued that intelligent design be taught as an alternative to evolution. That is fine, so long as nobody pretends that intelligent design is a "scientific" theory. It isn't.

Evolution is based on the scientific method - intelligent design is based on faith. As I wrote earlier - I am making no judgement as to what is "better".
The ORIGINAL theory of evolution is Biblical ...

What angers me it the callous disregard towards a way of life which has actually taught that life came from the sea before science ever knew the earth was even round.

Don't get me wrong - I am NOT a Christian, Muslim, Jew, or anything like that - I just believe in a creator.
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The ORIGINAL theory of evolution is Biblical ...
Far from original. There were many creation stories long before that one. Australian Aboriginies had creation stories 40,000 years before the Hebrews thought up their one. Are you claiming that the Bible has more right to be taught than stories about the Rainbow Serpent? The Rainbow Serpent stories have been around much, much longer. Who is to say that they are not right?
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Are you claiming that the Bible has more right to be taught than stories about the Rainbow Serpent?
No ... just more than science
which has many followers who insist on bashing the Bible for the sake of science.

FYI: never heard of the Rainbow serpent
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Evolution is as solidly underpinned a theory as the quantum physics currently running your computers. It boggles the mind that anyone using a DVD player (with a laser) or a computer or a GPS can seriously question evolution.

My condolences to my fellow Americans for having to even spend time on combating this ignorance.

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It boggles the mind that anyone using a DVD player (with a laser) or a computer or a GPS can seriously question evolution.
do computers and GPS have hunches and feelings like an EVOLVED human? Where is the actual like?

How stupid are we supposed to be? There are too many missing likes in the so called evolution of HUMANS ....

... come on ... there are fossils of billion year old shells and not enough to prove that humans evolved?

. . . . okay . . . .

That is like saying "How can anyone who has seen a ball bearing not understand that a rocket to the moon is possible"
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