there was the same kind of criticism for the ideas of the earth being round, the sun being the middle of the solar system, gravity, the big bang, etc.. maybe people should focus on the science then on how ridicolous it sounds.

p.s. it seems as if there are a lot of people that get ID and creationism mixed up so heres a simplified difference.

creationism is based on the idea that everything was created by a creator of a god.

intelligent design is based on the idea that the universe and everything in it is too complex for being explained by chance. ID is not based on a creator or god. it can simply be something like a force or a phenomenon like gravity or time. there are many things that we dont know of so we should keep an open mind about such possibility.

Evolution makes more sense though we see it every day pesticides that fail to wipe out a nasty strain of locust end up bringing a new tougher bug that needs more chemicals to die.. as we wipe out landscape dumping salt and chemical more hardy plants take there place..

Intelligent design is really just a fancy word for 'DO WHAT YOUR PARENTS TELL YOU BECAUSE THERE PARENTS TOLD THEM WHOSE PARENTS TOLD THEM!' and so on..

Although Intelligent design has little merit theres no reason it cant be taught in school. But along side evolution is promoting it a bit too much really..

its irrelevant whether or not it makes sense. do you think that black holes made sense to the cave man? no, but that doesnt mean they didnt exist back then.

and how is evolution any different? you dont question anything scientists say and automatically take it as fact and when a challenging concept comes along, you dismiss it as being too ridiculous.

so even though evolution hasnt event been proven its still fact while ID is just a joke? i thought we moved past the 700s and actually debate ideas.. but apparently our scientists are doint the same thing the priests were doing abcak then; calling everything other then what they believe as not true.

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yes it is relevant you have to be able to prove its real or your arguing over crap..

Evolution is different because you can understand how it works. You can follow every intimate procedure and step as to how life was formed. Creationism is a story that provides no explanation just a tale of how God 'made' everything in order of what whoever wrote it thought was important. ie. light, sand, people..

Evolution is not fact but its leaps and bounds ahead of creationism. Its like comparing a scholar to a small retarted boy..

no its not relevant. you said we should believe evolution because it makes more sence. thousands of years ago the greeks believed that zeus was throwing down lightning bolts because that was what made sence for them.. just like evolution "makes sence" for us..

evolution has never been proven. how is it fact if it has never been proven?

thats only an idea. its never been proven. can you prove that we evolved from microbes? no.
the topic is intelligent design, not creationism. my argument is for ID not creationism.
again, nobody is arguing for creationism.. maybe you should pay attention to the subject.

by other schools you mean public schools, which technically are secular schools. the difference is that religious people have to pay to have their kids go to school as well as pay for taxes that pay for "public" schools whereas a nonreligious person has to pay only taxes to have their kids in school. intelligen design has nothing to do with religion. if it does, can you name me what religion its part of? can you name a text in any religious doctrine that teaches intelligent design? would you be in favor of getting rid of evolution if a religion adopted it as part of their faith?

People back then were stupid. What made sense to them was based on there blind faith in there religion, it wasn't based on what they observed around them. When you step outside religion you find reality. Nobody ever travelled into space or split the atom while praying. And again i never said it was fact.

Can you prove 'God made it so shutup'. I'm afraid evolution can account for itself alot better than Intelligent design.

Same crap. ID is just creationism for humans with the great 'oww were too special to be created by evolution' spin too it..

like your blind faith in science.. reality check.. were still stupid.

yes it was. they saw something and tried to rationalize a reason for it.
prove it.
you wouldnt know that.. are you saying its not fact? or do you think its fact?


again, im agnostic.. im not religious, i dont believe in "god". im not making the argument for creationism. and you still havent answered my question.. also, evolution is an idea, therefore it cant account for itsself.

just shows how little you know. i wouldnt expect you to understand the difference.. you cant even explain evolution..

Speak for yourself ehh?

There conclusions were poorly drawn and they constantly turned to there Gods for a shortcut.

Name anything in reality that God is responsible for. (And i mean ANYTHING) Something that he did thats physical and can be measured. And then prove that he made it.. while you look for that ill be in bed.

Yes i would. Men of science who look beyond faith are the ones who come up with the answers..

Ill say it again i never said it was fact. but that doesn't mean it isn't leaps and bounds ahead of intelligent design.

Your agnostic you don't believe that God can be proven or disproven. So answer my question: Can you prove that we were created by a God? That were really unique? and evolution couldn't be responsible for something as great as us?

Sure i can Evolution is the idea that all species and organisms developed there characteristics through natural selection were the strongest organisms with the most advantage get to breed and spread there more dominant genes..

Intelligent design is the idea that were to perfect to be created by a undirected process. So therefore our being is a result of some supernatural power. And humans and the rest of the animal kindom have no links to each other its just coincidence.