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Old 04-09-2004, 06:06 PM
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Default Your thoughts on the "No Child Left Behind" bill

So, what are your thoughts on the bill that was unanimously voted for in the Houze and the Senate?

My only concern is the lack of consideration that went into the bill, in regards to states/schools that are already above the benchmark standards for testing. Virginia, for example, already has a method of testing (the SOL's or Standards of Learning). Money that would have gone to these states could instead be given to states/schools who need the funding more so than the academically sound states/schools.
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Old 04-10-2004, 10:37 AM
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I think that Bush's NCLB bill is an outrage. Not only does it not help students learn, it puts pressure on teachers. Teachers already have to teach too much towards tests, and now it even more so. The whole education system needs to be reworked. Schools are individualized enough, teachers have no idea how to teach to different styles of learning, if at all. Each kid unique in the way he or she learns. Too many teachers just talk and talk for the whole class, many kids can't learn that way. We need to drastically rethink our education system.
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Old 04-12-2004, 01:19 PM
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Default Lecture

It is hopefully soon to be statistically proven that lecture is not a valid teaching method for US pop culture raised children.

If we can at least make that step in the right direction, perhaps we can fix the problem. In other countries lecture is effective because the ammount of attention paid is directly related to each childs future and that reality is constantly reinforced. Kids with excellent grades are respected, whereas here the "Nerd" and "Joc" stereotypes have taken away what was once a valid reason to excell at your studdies, status. Why would a kid study when his friends accept him more if he drinks, does drugs, and plays football and they'll worship him?

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Old 04-14-2004, 04:40 PM
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"Bush's NCLB bill is an outrage"

WHAT?!@?@

Y'know that Kennedy drafted the thing... so how are you pinning this on Bush?
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:52 PM
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Default The biggest outrage in Education history

I have to say, being a student of the NCLB i beleive this is an outrage. First off, teachers and students haver to focus on preparing for the tests months before the actual test. so thus you become distracted from your learning environment. On top of that, for those schools that do bad on the NCLB tests, schools lose funding. I mean, it makes no sense. Because schools that do bad on the tests generally means they can't afford teachers, which taking more money away from the schools that need money is ludacris.

i am strongly against this bill.
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Old 05-10-2004, 02:55 PM
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Default oh yea i pin it on bush too

how can you not pin it on bush. he is the one who pushed for NCLB bill. It is his bill.
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Old 06-01-2004, 04:52 PM
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Default It is Unconstitutional

Constitutionally speaking, the No Child Left Behind Bill is unconstitutional. It is the state's responsibility to regulate education, underlined in the constitution.

Funny thing is, currently in my state- Ohio, they don't have a clue how to fund schools. Nobody really wants to solve problems. People want to point fingers at each party. Each state branch of government has halted from fixing the problem. Nothing is ever bipartisan anymore, not sure it ever has been. So what I'm wondering is, if the state government can't fix it, maybe the federal government should step in, or the constitution should be amended.
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Default It's idiotic

One quote by bush during an interview about "No Child Left Behind" was:

"The question seldom asked is: Is are children learning?" - GDB

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Default NCLB

Having the states control education is the way to go and its the way of conservative Republicans. Republicans believe in a smaller government so states have more rights, vice versa for Democrats. But some good things have come from the No Child Left Behind Act.

It makes schools more accountable to parents, requires higher standards, and gives states more local control so communities are responsible for the their schools.

Since taking office in 2001, Bush has increased elementary and secondary funding by 48%, Title I funding for low-income students by 52%, and special education funding by 75%.

It is a revolutionary education bill that was unanimously voted in, yes even John Kerry and the other liberals did, but now Kerry now says "its difficult to see how it helps parents or children." (LA Times, 4/5/04)
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Default What will this bill actually do?

And where can i find out facts about each canidates plans, because it sure isn't on there websites.
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