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View Poll Results: Who will/would you vote for?
Canadian Conservative Party 5 62.50%
The Bloc Quebequos 0 0%
New Democratic Party 1 12.50%
Action Party 0 0%
Marxist/Leninst Party 0 0%
Canadian Communist Party 0 0%
Liberaterian Party 0 0%
Progressive Canadian Party 0 0%
Christian Heritage Party 1 12.50%
Marijuana Party of Canada 0 0%
Green Party 0 0%
Liberal Party Of Canada 1 12.50%
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Old 01-18-2006, 01:20 PM
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Stephen Harpers Agenda:
- Send troops to Iraq (not a bad idea if the mission is given U.N. control)
It's about time that Canada helps promote democracy around the Globe. the Iraqi people could use the help of Canda... it is their hour of need.
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- Sign onto Missile Defense (to benefit only the U.S.)
Last time I checked, 90% of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the US border. IF there were ever a nuclear war, it is quite probable that Canada would be either directly or indirectly hit by nuclear weapons. Cooperation in the Missle Defense Program would positively affect Canada's security.

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- Scrap a women's right to choose
Or protect the life of unborn children from irresponsible women who don't want to bear the responsibility of their mistakes and opt to kill their children. It all depends on how you look at it.

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- Scrap same-sex marriage
Or protect the original definition of marriage as it has existed since the beginning of mankind.

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- Reinstate the death penalty
I would wager that a large number of Canadians support capital punishment.

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- Neglect public healthcare, while establishing privite healthcare
Canada's healthcare system is seriously flawed. People often die while waiting for care. What's the use of free healthcare if you can't get it?

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- Not create any national childcare spots
Why should people's tax money go to childcare? If you need it, pay for it yourself.

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- Throw money at well-off Canadians and Corporations
LOL. I LOVE how liberals try to distort the truth.... Giving people's hard earned tax money back is NOT "throwing" it at them. It was theirs to begin with and the government had no right to steal it from them. To me, this is one of the most heinus crimes that governments commit. Why take away the money of those who are productive and give it to those who are not? This is why socialism doesn't work. Never has, never will. And the premise of socialism is wrong and should be made illegal, it's nothing short of government sponsored theft.

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- Ignore the fiscal imbalance
I really don't know how the opposition will do anything better in this category.

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- Produce a deficeit, increase the national debt
Again, you really think this is their platform?

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Basically, Harper is evil. If you care about Canada vote for any canadidate that is not with the Conservative Party, even the Bloc would be a better choice.
Ad hominem. Cut it with the namecalling. You may not agree with the Conservative party platform, but it most certainly is NOt evil.
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- Scrap a women's right to choose
Or protect the life of unborn children from irresponsible women who don't want to bear the responsibility of their mistakes and opt to kill their children. It all depends on how you look at it.
I agree, Abortion is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing gift by the Liberal government.
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Old 01-19-2006, 07:27 PM
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It's about time that Canada helps promote democracy around the Globe. the Iraqi people could use the help of Canda... it is their hour of need.
What do you mean its about time. Canada has peacekeepers in god knows how many countries, our main commitment being Afganistan. We support democracy in Iraq, that is why we are training Iraqi police officers in neighbouring Syria. When will the U.S. understand that if they want help from anyone they must turn over the security mission to the U.N.. They handed over control to the U.N. in Afganistan, Canada and tons of countries are there, they didn't in Iraq, Canada isn't there and others are leaving. Speaking of peacekeeping, Canada invented the concept.

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Last time I checked, 90% of Canada's population lives within 100 miles of the US border. IF there were ever a nuclear war, it is quite probable that Canada would be either directly or indirectly hit by nuclear weapons. Cooperation in the Missle Defense Program would positively affect Canada's security.
Canada is focussing on nuclear non-proliferation, to prevent rogue states from launching nukes at anyone. If we suddenly started on a Missile Defense shield then it would look like we expect non-proliferation to fail, thats not the impression we want to send to people. We have a good reputation in the world and nuclear fallout doesen't tend to blow all over the place like you would imagine. Not to mention it would be a questionable use of tax dollars. The U.S. can do whatever it wants on its own though.

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Or protect the life of unborn children from irresponsible women who don't want to bear the responsibility of their mistakes and opt to kill their children. It all depends on how you look at it.
It is quite clear that the right to choose and the right to control ones own body are things that one just cannot get rid of. As much as I like to see a fetus mature into a person, we have have to accept reality here and keep peoples rights intact.

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Or protect the original definition of marriage as it has existed since the beginning of mankind.
I have no problem with redefining marriage, the point is the Conservatives want to redefine it because they prefer homosexual couples to be treated as inferiors. If they re-grant the rights through a union or partnership no one would complain, the fact is the Conservatives wouldn't do that, and they would as a result be in violation of the Charter of Rights. What else is new, Conservatives and violating things go hand-in-hand.

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I would wager that a large number of Canadians support capital punishment.
Probably 30-40%, but there appears to be no good excuse to reinstate it, especially since it is statistically likely that innocent people have been executed in the U.S..

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Canada's healthcare system is seriously flawed. People often die while waiting for care. What's the use of free healthcare if you can't get it?
Often would be an exaggeration, at best there have been a handful of examples. Canada's healthcare system isn't perfect but its considered one of the best in the world, which is a main source of pride for Canadians. What is needed is more funding, the Liberals have proposed 40 billion over 5 years, although that still falls short of what the NDP has proposed. The Conservatives are hopeless on healthcare, due to the 22 billion dollar hole in their fiscal plan, you can expect many more people to die on the waiting list. While people are dieing, the rich would be simultaniously getting their healthcare from a privite clinic.

Speaking of healthcare, I watched a documentary by Peter Jennings about the health insurance crisis in the U.S., it wasn't too flattering. Some Yanks can't even get health insurance much less be put on a waiting list. I won't even try counting the number of people that have died in the U.S. due to no access to healthcare, the number would no doubt be astronimical.

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Why should people's tax money go to childcare? If you need it, pay for it yourself.
People do pay for it theirselves, but there is not enough spots available for all children that require childcare. The privite sector isn't creating anymore spots, and the Conservatives solution is to hand out $1200 to parents. What the Liberals and NDP want to do is build actually childcare facilities, so all children can be safe and good environment while the parents are working. With the Conservatives plan, not one facility will be invested in, not to mention there is no guarentee that the tax credit will even go to childcare.

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LOL. I LOVE how liberals try to distort the truth.... Giving people's hard earned tax money back is NOT "throwing" it at them. It was theirs to begin with and the government had no right to steal it from them. To me, this is one of the most heinus crimes that governments commit. Why take away the money of those who are productive and give it to those who are not? This is why socialism doesn't work. Never has, never will. And the premise of socialism is wrong and should be made illegal, it's nothing short of government sponsored theft.
Its more of a crime to neglect people, productive or not. If you still haven't noticed, there are serious things that need funding in Canada. The Conservatives want to cut taxes first, then throw around the remaining money into programs, even if theres not enough left. Thats the recipe for fiscal ruin, a lesson the Conservatives clearly didn't learn from their last time in office. Not to mention they should be learning the lesson from the Bush administration in the U.S. as well as the former Mike Harris government from Ontario.

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Again, you really think this is their platform?
I am just saying the Liberals have been producing a surplus since they got into power as well as paying down the national debt. There is no good reason to change governments, especially to a Conservative one.
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Canada is focussing on nuclear non-proliferation, to prevent rogue states from launching nukes at anyone.
you guys are doing a great job with keeping North Korea and Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Keep up the good work!
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you guys are doing a great job with keeping North Korea and Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Keep up the good work!
Well its not like anyone is having much success with those two countries.
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Well its not like anyone is having much success with those two countries.
Good luck with defending yourself from nuclear attacks from them once the US implements its missile defense program.
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Good luck with defending yourself from nuclear attacks from them once the US implements its missile defense program.
Good luck with that missile defense program, the last thing i heard most of the tests have failed. By the time you get it working, Canada and the international community will have solved the North Korea and Iran problems.
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The only solution to getting Iran and NK to stop building nukes is for the US to order airstrikes on their facilities, which is probably what is going to happen. And excuse me for being skeptical about Canada doing ANYTHING in disarming Iran or NK. It just isn't happening. Face it, you guys benefit greatly from having a powerful nation with a powerful military protecting you.
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Actually both situations will probably end up being fixed through the U.N..

What has the U.S. ever done to protect Canada? Nothing actually.
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