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Old 05-14-2006, 12:03 PM
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Default Just when I was starting to really like McCain

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...47.html?sub=AR
Perhaps I just don't appreciate political realism, but I'm sick of people catering to religious fanatics. McCain rightly labeled Falwell and Robertson and his apology makes me sick.
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Old 05-14-2006, 12:34 PM
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I think he's only doing this to get their votes if he runs for president in 2008. And that is fine by me.

It only becomes a problem when he actually starts listening to these extremists. Lip service, though, doesn't hurt anyone...
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McCain has sold out completely if he apologizes to people like this:

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If you think the above is bad, read these quotes from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson:

"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh's charioteers . . . AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals." (Jerry Falwell)

"His message of peace and reconciliation under almost all circumstances is simply incompatible with Christian teachings as I interpret them. This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. What we need to do is take the battle to the Muslim heathens and do unto them before they do unto us." (Jerry Falwell, referring to Jimmy Carter)

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"If Christian people work together, they can succeed during this decade in winning back control of the institutions that have been taken from them over the past 70 years. Expect confrontations that will be not only unpleasant but at times physically bloody.... This decade will not be for the faint of heart, but the resolute. Institutions will be plunged into wrenching change. We will be living through one of the most tumultuous periods of human history. When it is over, I am convinced God's people will emerge victorious." (Pat Robertson)

'We have a court that has essentially stuck its finger in God's eye. We have insulted God at the highest levels of our government. Then, we say, "Why does this happen?" It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us.' (Pat Robertson, referring to September 11th)

"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense. I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist. I can love the people who hold false opinions but I don't have to be nice to them." (Pat Robertson)

"It is interesting, that termites don't build things, and the great builders of our nation almost to a man have been Christians, because Christians have the desire to build something. He is motivated by love of man and God, so he builds. The people who have come into [our] institutions [today] are primarily termites. They are into destroying institutions that have been built by Christians, whether it is universities, governments, our own traditions, that we have.... The termites are in charge now, and that is not the way it ought to be, and the time has arrived for a godly fumigation." (Pat Robertson)

"God's pattern is for men to be the leaders, both in the church and in the family... Women should listen and learn quietly and submissively. I do not let women teach men or have authority over them." (Pat Robertson)

"Many of those people involved with Adolf Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals -- the two things seem to go together." (Pat Robertson)

"I think we ought to close Halloween down. Do you want your children to dress up as witches? The Druids used to dress up like this when they were doing human sacrifice... [Your children] are acting out Satanic rituals and participating in it, and don't even realize it." (Pat Robertson)

"How can there be peace when drunkards, drug dealers, communists, atheists, New Age worshipers of Satan, secular humanists, oppressive dictators, greedy money changers, revolutionary assassins, adulterers, and homosexuals are on top?" (Pat Robertson)

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Falwell and Robertson are not Christians. They are dangerous, psychotic menaces who disguise themselves as Christians and harm everything that Christianity actually stands for. I wouldn't vote for McCain anyway, but if a politician associates with monstrous religious fascists like Falwell and Robertson, they lose all support from me immediately. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are cruel, sexist bigots and liars who terribly hurt the one major cause that both they and I support: The pro-life movement.
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McCain has always been a two faced wishy washy self-serving hypocrite. That was clear long ago when he refused to demand an accounting for the missing in action from the Viet Nam war.
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when he went "campaigning" for the current CinC in 2004..(Especially after what was done to him in SC in 2000)
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The Media pushes McCain onto the American people. They love calling him a Maverick. The Media also pushes Hillary for president. I don't really think most progressives want that.
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is trying to gain support from the religious right w/o losing moderate Repubs and Democratic swing voters. Pretty dicey stategy. He is rapidly losing the support of people who thought he had a spine and a mind of his own.

Among Republicans Voinivich strikes me as a guy who stands firm.
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Default Funny you should say that.

He didn't apologize. Feel better now, Java?
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I'm leaning toward McCain in the next election. I am now leaning less. Had he apologized it would be over.
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He didn't apologize. Feel better now, Java?
Yes, actually. But the lip service is still irritating. I guess that's normal for politicians.
I'm considering voting in the Republican primary (Michigan doesn't make you register a party) if McCain runs and the Crats continue to provide no one good.
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