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Old 06-02-2006, 05:34 PM
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I do think he rigged it. What are your thoughts?
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Old 06-02-2006, 08:19 PM
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Just put the cap back on the toothpaste tube, turn off the light, and go to bed.

It's over. Really.
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Old 06-03-2006, 09:17 AM
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Sadly the elections are over.
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Old 06-03-2006, 11:09 AM
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It's over. Really.
It's over, it's done with, let's move on.

What we should really be focusing on, IMO, is how to prevent these kinds of abuses in the future.

Clearly, abuses have occurred on both sides of the political aisle.

Elections tend to get very competitive, and there are certainly clear legal boundaries as to what types of behavior are acceptable and what types are not.

One of the big areas that needs attention is "new technology", and another is the "suppression" that tends to occur regularly with each new election.

The latter is firmly institutionalized into existing law, but the former is a new area that requires new solutions.
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Yes, I agree, it's over. We should worry about the next election.

There should be a paper trail to prevent any future voting discrepancies and concerns.

When using an ATM machine, a person receives a paper receipt, this concept can also be applied to the voting system. Diebold can make this happen, the question is; would they be willing to do it?
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It's far from over when these electronic voting machines have been found to have three levels of security flaws. No election is safe as long as these machines are being installed all over the country without being completely checked out.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/
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YES!! He really won and he will be President for 2 more years.

End of story..
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It's far from over when these electronic voting machines have been found to have three levels of security flaws. No election is safe as long as these machines are being installed all over the country without being completely checked out.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but election fraud has been rampant in the past... before electronic voting machines were invented.

No system is infallible. We should always work to make things open, fair, and honest. We should always prosecute, to the fullest extent of the law, anyone committing election/voter fraud.

Having said all that, I will say that election fraud is getting harder and harder to perpetrate each election. The last election, like every one before it, was imperfect. The last election UNLIKE everyone before it, had fewer flaws.
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It's far from over when these electronic voting machines have been found to have three levels of security flaws. No election is safe as long as these machines are being installed all over the country without being completely checked out.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but election fraud has been rampant in the past... before electronic voting machines were invented.

No system is infallible. We should always work to make things open, fair, and honest. We should always prosecute, to the fullest extent of the law, anyone committing election/voter fraud.

Having said all that, I will say that it's getting harder and harder to perpetrate each election. The last election, like every one before it, was imperfect. The last election UNLIKE everyone before it, had fewer flaws.
I'm not even sure why I bother with posting links since it's obvious people like you never read them. If you had you would know the last election had more of those electronic voter machines all over this country than there ever has been. They leave no paper receipt to prove how you voted. A receipt you can get for anything you do but not voting.

Then the fact that it has been proved there are so many ways to hack the machines that you can pretty much chose. Not only that but it was found diebold purposely put it software with back door that were no mistake and could give them or whoever full control of the machines and never leave a trace.
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