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Old 06-07-2006, 08:16 AM
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Default Republican Wins in California!

The libs were so sure that this was going to be the deciding factor against Republicans in regards to the upcoming fall elections. They said this was "the one to watch." They said this was the "belwether" race and would answer the question about Republicans being able to hold their majority in the fall elections. Well....thank God: it's been answered and the Republican won!

Republican Brian Bilbray emerged victorious after a costly and contentious special election race against Democrat Francine Busby, a local school board member.

With 96 percent of precincts reporting, Bilbray had 58,566 votes, or 49 percent, to Busby's 53,598 votes, or 45 percent. "I think that we're going back to Washington," Bilbray told cheering supporters.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060607/...imaries_rdp_30
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:19 AM
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Default Once again JP5 proclaims victory when it's really defeat

That area of San Diego was a Republican stronghold. Different elections showed between 54% and 58% Republican core constituents. And that's not a recent thing. The San Diego area has been the bedrock of Republicanism in California.

The Dems spent 2 mil. But the Republicans spent 4.5 mil and hundreds of activists were sent merely to hold onto what should have been a LOCK.

And you Repub couldn't even muster the majority of 50%.

This election is a bellweather for what's going to happen in November. Because if Repubs have to fight so hard in an area which was a Republican stronghold, how in the world will they ever win in more closely contested races?
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Old 06-07-2006, 10:34 AM
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That area of San Diego was a Republican stronghold. Different elections showed between 54% and 58% Republican core constituents. And that's not a recent thing. The San Diego area has been the bedrock of Republicanism in California.

The Dems spent 2 mil. But the Republicans spent 4.5 mil and hundreds of activists were sent merely to hold onto what should have been a LOCK.

And you Repub couldn't even muster the majority of 50%.

This election is a bellweather for what's going to happen in November. Because if Repubs have to fight so hard in an area which was a Republican stronghold, how in the world will they ever win in more closely contested races?
Ask John Thune, beneficiary when Tiny Tommy Daschle got voters' bootprint right on his child-sized butt. Daschle's defeat was devastating to the Donks and everyone knew it. He lost because his minions let down their guard.

San Diego will remain conservative. Take that to the bank.
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Default there needs to be an alternative

while this was but a single race in an established republican community, the republicans held on to a seat given up by cunningham because of his corruption.
the democrats will have to offer something other than being non-republican if they want to exploit the self-inflicted wounds of this administration.
America is tired of sordid politicians - of both parties; the democrats need to stake out why their candidates should be THE valid alternative.
if they have a message, i haven't heard it.
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Ask John Thune, beneficiary when Tiny Tommy Daschle got voters' bootprint right on his child-sized butt. Daschle's defeat was devastating to the Donks and everyone knew it. He lost because his minions let down their guard.
The big thing Thune wanted from Bush the Lame was to protect the big military installation in SD:
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Among the major proposed closures is Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, home to 29 B-1B bombers, half the nation’s fleet of the aircraft, and the state’s second largest employer.

That would deal a potential political setback to Republican freshman Sen. John Thune, who had claimed he could protect the base if elected during his campaign to defeat former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle.

Thune called the Pentagon “flat wrong" about Ellsworth, and he vowed to help lead the fight in the Senate to delay the entire round of closures. “We will continue to keep Ellsworth open," Thune said.

An Air Force study last year estimated Ellsworth’s annual economic impact in the state at $278 million, including its $161 million annual payroll.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7834939/
Your ad hominem regarding Daschle's stature would be better applied to your boy Thune. At least Daschle could protect a vital airbase.

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Ask John Thune, beneficiary when Tiny Tommy Daschle got voters' bootprint right on his child-sized butt. Daschle's defeat was devastating to the Donks and everyone knew it. He lost because his minions let down their guard.
The big thing Thune wanted from Bush the Lame was to protect the big military installation in SD:
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Republican senator vows to fight
Among the major proposed closures is Ellsworth Air Force Base in South Dakota, home to 29 B-1B bombers, half the nation’s fleet of the aircraft, and the state’s second largest employer.

That would deal a potential political setback to Republican freshman Sen. John Thune, who had claimed he could protect the base if elected during his campaign to defeat former Senate Minority Leader Tom Daschle.

Thune called the Pentagon “flat wrong" about Ellsworth, and he vowed to help lead the fight in the Senate to delay the entire round of closures. “We will continue to keep Ellsworth open," Thune said.

An Air Force study last year estimated Ellsworth’s annual economic impact in the state at $278 million, including its $161 million annual payroll.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7834939/
Your ad hominem regarding Daschle's stature would be better applied to your boy Thune. At least Daschle could protect a vital airbase.

At least Thune knew his primncipal residence was not in a Washington, D.C. suburb, but back in his home state. Daschle forgot who brung him to the dance.

Interesting to note that saving money by closing unwanted facilities NEVER matters to liberals. Just the jobs absorbed back into the local economy, or ways to waste money readmitting these same people back into the civilian labor force.
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That area of San Diego was a Republican stronghold. Different elections showed between 54% and 58% Republican core constituents. And that's not a recent thing. The San Diego area has been the bedrock of Republicanism in California.

The Dems spent 2 mil. But the Republicans spent 4.5 mil and hundreds of activists were sent merely to hold onto what should have been a LOCK.

And you Repub couldn't even muster the majority of 50%.

This election is a bellweather for what's going to happen in November. Because if Repubs have to fight so hard in an area which was a Republican stronghold, how in the world will they ever win in more closely contested races?
HA! Only a lib could try turning a LOSS into a WIN. Sorry, Beagle.....we had libs on this very board who just yesterday said this was the "one to watch" and was the "bellwether" for the upcoming elections. Now, you can't go changing what they said.

And yes.....the whole story is that the Republican had to beat 13 OTHER REPUBLICANS. The Democrat only had to beat ONE other Democrat. That's why he had to spend more money and why the race was that close. It's always nice to tell the WHOLE STORY.

Way to go Republicans.
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They always do that.
Say that their losses are really wins..I guess it makes the feel better..shrug.



This was the BIG one the big thing yada blah blah blah for the Demcorats and they LOST!
....insert Robert Kennedy...IT WAS STOLEN!!!
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Default Stating the obvious

It appears to me that the "Culture of Corruption" platform, when stacked up against the anti-illegal alien sentiment of the voter base there in San Diego, doesn't hold much. The "Vote for us because we're not them" idea is just too weak to run with.

It also helps when the Democrat makes a slip of the tongue that fuels that sentiment two days before the election. No matter how much I may hope for it to be so, not all Democrats are that stupid. (I surely hope I'm wrong, though.)

Perhaps politicians in Washington should take note. I doubt they will, but one can only hope and pray they're not THAT stupid as to ignore their base when BOTH parties' voters are against the present Senate bill on immigration reform.
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At least Thune knew his primncipal residence was not in a Washington, D.C. suburb, but back in his home state. Daschle forgot who brung him to the dance.
You could say the same thing about Rick Santorum:
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06146/693291-192.stm
Or any other long-serving Congresscritter. It's not an invalid criticism, but it's not a strong one, either.

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Interesting to note that saving money by closing unwanted facilities NEVER matters to liberals. Just the jobs absorbed back into the local economy, or ways to waste money readmitting these same people back into the civilian labor force.
I agree with you about closing bases. But that's not a liberal or conservative thing; it's a parochial thing. Every Congresscritter tends to fight to keep local bases open. That's why the base closings are handled the way they are: a single list that must be voted up or down as a whole.
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