I read in Time magazine for the week of November 13, about the free state project. It is a proposal by Libertarians to create a political haven that will dominate part of New Hampshire. Their ideal goal is to eventually attract 20,000 people. Only 100 have moved and 500 have promised to move by 2008. While it is a lofty goal, it is also a pretty brilliant idea and goes along with the idea that people could dominate geographical areas based on political belief, thereby challenging the two party system and encouraging local governance. In the age of information these kind of things seem more likely as the internet allows people of similar beliefs to come together in one area.
What does everyone think?

http://www.freestateproject.org/

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"In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." - Nietzsche

Obviously, as a Libertarian, I hope it succeeds, but it will take time. I'm just glad to see a new strategy, because the old strategy isn't producing national wins in the electoral process.

There is also a Free State Wyoming project based on the same principles, which I think is a good idea also:

http://www.freestatewyoming.org

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Hmmm...well, that much is true, TB. I hope it yields some fruit. We've got a similar idea here in Florida. The idea is to saturate a county with Libertarian voters. Then to put Libertarians in office, to demonstrate that what's possible.

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Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely----Lord Acton

Sounds VERY appealing. As more Americans tire of imitating sheep, this movement might grow.

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"Tweeter was a Boyscout before she went to Vietnam and found out the hard way... nobody gives a d@mn."

Here's another freedom oriented group seeking to organize next year:

http://freeamerica.ws/

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

Libertarians are international trade Utopinaists. A stones throw away from International Socialist Democrats. Libertarian crackers salivate at the thought of the free flow of human slaves, to bolster their portfolios. Libertarians love Amnesty.

I applaude the technique.
Once they are capable of creating a Libertarian state they can become a major contestant in elections AND the experience of actually having to run a state will hopefully allow some realism to sink into their heads and they can make the party one worth voting for.

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The Tall Man, Phantasm III

Silence, demon. Explain to me how someone is a slave who is 100% tax free. It's your Neocon Republican masters who need slaves to tax at 50% to sustain their empire. You're a sick, lying fraud, Righty. If this was 1776 you'd be serving King George and spying on the Founding Fathers.

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"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." - Schopenhauer

That's hilarious!
Whenever I read Righty's posts from now on, I'm going to hear them in my head like possessed Linda Blair spewing out random obscenities.
It actually works with most of his posts!

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The Tall Man, Phantasm III

What does that say about you then Righty?? I am a Libertarian and I agree with the Republicans alot of the time. I am for having the military on the border, I am for pulling out of the United Nations, I am for the right to own a gun, I am for religious freedom, and the ability to express that religious freedom in public. I despise socialism, I am FOR the death penalty, I am AGAINST late term abortions, I am for smaller government, and lower taxes, and above all else I am proud to be an American and I believe this is the greatest nation on the planet.

Now how many of those things do YOU disagree with?? There are varying degrees to being a libertarian.

Now some of the other things I support you obviously wouldnt. I am for allowing gay marriage, I am for the legalization of Marijuana (not other drugs, just pot) I support a womans right to choose if its early in the pregnancy, even though I HATE abortions and think they are wrong (like I said im against late term abortions) and I believe our military should mainly be used to protect American interests and its citizens. Not as the worlds police force.

So based on all of that I think its fair to say I lean towards the right. There are more conservative Libertarians, and more liberal ones. Obviously you are trying to judge something that you know nothing about.

Getting back on topic I think its a good idea to do what these Libertarians are doing. However being realistic I doubt that they will be able to get enough people to move to truly make a difference. I mean I dont necessarily enjoy living in Utah, however when I move im not going to be moving to New Hampshire. Yeah I would like to live in a Libertarian community, however I want to go to a state that I actually want to live in.

I still believe that there has got to be a better way to get people voting for 3rd party candidates. I think educating people about the belief system of 3rd parties is the best way to start. I mean honestly what do most people know about Libertarians besides "they want to legalize drugs" Seriously that is all most people actually think about us, when that is only one tiny, small issue. Much more important then that on the agenda is that we want smaller government. I think alot of disinfranchised Republicans would actually find the Libertarian party appealing if they looked past the one issue (drugs) and paid attention to the rest of it. On the flip side I think alot of really moderate Liberals would find that they are attracted to the Libertarian party as well if they looked past a few of the more conservative things.