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"Douglas MacKinnon, an aide to then-Senate Majority Leader Robert J. Dole (R-Kan.) during the 1990s, said Democrats must learn from Republican mistakes.

"Number one, you don't have a mandate," he said, addressing Democrats. "The American people were just sick of the other side, so don't turn things upside down, because they won't put up with it. . . . And guess what, the American people do want you to work with the other side. Republicans didn't. They let arrogance rule the day, and it hurt them in the end."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...v=rss_politics

I agree that the Republicans got to the point where they didn't work with Democrats, but I also don't view that as all the Republicans fault. I remember all too well how in the beginning, they wanted to work with Democrats, but the Democrats became very much obstructionists and decided their job was to block and filibuster. The Republicans got blamed for it in this election because they were the majority. So, I guess, if some Republicans decide to do the same that Dems did to them, the Dems won't be able to lead effectively either and they will get kicked out next time. It's all a vicious circle. What goes around; comes around. And around and around and around. We need some statemen on BOTH sides who are willing to stop thinking FIRST about their political party and to START thinking about what's best for our country. But-----where are they???
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We need some statemen on BOTH sides who are willing to stop thinking FIRST about their political party and to START thinking about what's best for our country. But-----where are they???
If you want to reduce the size of government, you abolish federal unions and lay off deadwood in the organization. Dems refuse to do that. Their short-term obesiance to Big Labor is not in the interest of all taxpayers.

Conversely, Republicans gave voters a very good economy, with some nice unemployment figures---and lying-filth Democrats managed to talk about queer Republicans and a war they have actively fought to lose, as if that loss is the GOP's fault. Dems conned America; it's what they do, the game of misdirection which made Houdini great.

But you cannot misdirect the fact the U.S. Government is wildly bloated and a great deal of its work is to justify its own existance---a government that literally outnumbers the number of people in manufacturing jobs. Dems don't want that to change, and are criminally hypocritical to claim otherwise.

Last Tuesday, America voted for the scumbags. We got the trash we deserve.

To change government, you educate voters.

Ooops. Dems own Big Education, too. No wonder we have so many ignorant Dems.
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But you cannot misdirect the fact the U.S. Government is wildly bloated and a great deal of its work is to justify its own existance---a government that literally outnumbers the number of people in manufacturing jobs. Dems don't want that to change, and are criminally hypocritical to claim otherwise.
You are stating a fact. But do you think either side (the leadership) wants that to change?

While I was trying to gather data on earmark spending, I ran across several sites that gave a rundown on Jeff Flake's efforts to at least expose this practice. I would have more hope for the two party system if I saw more people like Flake in either or both parties. But he seems to be the exception, not the rule. And my guess is, he will step on the wrong toes sooner than later, and be thrown to the wolves when it's most convenient. Spending money, especially someone else's, is just so much fun (the motto of pole-dancers throughout the world). Neither party seems willing to be led or influenced by fiscal conservatives. And since the voters on both sides are willing to accept huge deficits, why should the Congress Critters change their evil & destructive ways? Why not just keep telling lies and keep having fun? H#ll, it's worked well enough for them so far...
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Government is wildly bloated and a great deal of its work is to justify its own existance---a government that literally outnumbers the number of people in manufacturing jobs. Dems don't want that to change,
Man, you are just living in a complete and total fantasy world. I have to laugh at your delusional thinking patterns. Your assessment about government is correct, however, your false belief that Republicans want that to change is just hilarious. They had 6 years to cut it, AND THEY INSTEAD GREW THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT LARGER EVERY SINGLE YEAR. They created new departments and new entitlement programs. It was the largest increase since LBJ!!! Government spending has increased every single year for the last 6 years. Now, I don't know what Bizarro world you're living in, but that is not a move to cut the size and scope of government.

You're so completely biased in favor of the Republican Party, that you simply refuse to believe anything negative about them - even when the truth is right there staring you in the face.

Seriously, you need to seek professional help.
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a‧nal‧y‧sis  /əˈnæləsɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-nal-uh-sis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun, plural -ses /-ˌsiz/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[-seez] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation. 1. the separating of any material or abstract entity into its constituent elements (opposed to synthesis).
2. this process as a method of studying the nature of something or of determining its essential features and their relations: the grammatical analysis of a sentence.
3. a presentation, usually in writing, of the results of this process: The paper published an analysis of the political situation.
4. a philosophical method of exhibiting complex concepts or propositions as compounds or functions of more basic ones.
5. Mathematics. a. an investigation based on the properties of numbers.
b. the discussion of a problem by algebra, as opposed to geometry.
c. the branch of mathematics consisting of calculus and its higher developments.
d. a system of calculation, as combinatorial analysis or vector analysis.
e. a method of proving a proposition by assuming the result and working backward to something that is known to be true. Compare synthesis (def. 4).

6. Chemistry. a. intentionally produced decomposition or separation of materials into their ingredients or elements, as to find their kind or quantity.
b. the ascertainment of the kind or amount of one or more of the constituents of materials, whether obtained in separate form or not. Compare qualitative analysis, quantitative analysis.

7. psychoanalysis.
8. Computers. systems analysis.


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[Origin: 1575–85; < NL < Gk, equiv. to analȳ́(ein) to loosen up (ana- ana- + lȳ́ein to loosen) + -sis -sis]
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The separation of an intellectual or material whole into its constituent parts for individual study.
The study of such constituent parts and their interrelationships in making up a whole.
A spoken or written presentation of such study: published an analysis of poetic meter.
Chemistry.
The separation of a substance into its constituent elements to determine either their nature (qualitative analysis) or their proportions (quantitative analysis).
The stated findings of such a separation or determination.
Mathematics.
A branch of mathematics principally involving differential and integral calculus, sequences, and series and concerned with limits and convergence.
The method of proof in which a known truth is sought as a consequence of a series of deductions from that which is the thing to be proved.
Linguistics. The use of function words such as prepositions, pronouns, or auxiliary verbs instead of inflectional endings to express a grammatical relationship; for example, the cover of the dictionary instead of the dictionary's cover.
Psychoanalysis.
Systems analysis.


[Medieval Latin, from Greek analusis, a dissolving, from analein, to undo : ana-, throughout; see ana- + lein, to loosen; see leu- in Indo-European Roots.]

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a·nal·y·sis (-nl-ss)
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The separation of a whole into its constituent parts for individual study.
The separation of a substance into its constituent elements to determine either their nature or proportions.
The stated findings of such a separation or determination.
Psychoanalysis.

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Main Entry: anal·y·sis
Pronunciation: &-'nal-&-s&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural anal·y·ses /-"sEz/
1 : separation of a whole into its component parts
2 a : the identification or separation of ingredients of a substance b : a statement of the constituents of a mixture
3 : PSYCHOANALYSIS

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analysis

n 1: an investigation of the component parts of a whole and their relations in making up the whole 2: the abstract separation of a whole into its constituent parts in order to study the parts and their relations [syn: analytic thinking] [ant: synthesis] 3: a form of literary criticism in which the structure of a piece of writing is analyzed 4: the use of closed-class words instead of inflections: e.g., `the father of the bride' instead of `the bride's father' 5: a branch of mathematics involving calculus and the theory of limits; sequences and series and integration and differentiation 6: a set of techniques for exploring underlying motives and a method of treating various mental disorders; based on the theories of Sigmund Freud; "his physician recommended psychoanalysis" [syn: psychoanalysis, depth psychology]
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Definition: disappointment
Synonyms: agitation, alarm, anxiety, apprehension, blue funk*, blues*, bummer*, chagrin, cold feet*, consternation, disappointment, discouragement, disheartenment, disillusionment, distress, downer*, dread, dumps*, fear, fright, funk*, hassle, holy mess, horror, letdown, panic, terror, trepidation, upset
Antonyms: assurance, confidence, mettle, resolution, spirit
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...not to mention other relvant parts from your own quotes

I'll just write this off as a case of FLS.(aka Far Left Syndrome)

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You're so completely biased in favor of the Republican Party, that you simply refuse to believe anything negative about them - even when the truth is right there staring you in the face.
The literal truth is, I have never been a registered Republican. Nor a Democrat.

I didn't become a Republican because I think nine out of every 10 non-military jobs in our government are USELESS. I didn't become a Dem because they are gutless cowards---definitely not real Americans.
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You're so completely biased in favor of the Republican Party, that you simply refuse to believe anything negative about them - even when the truth is right there staring you in the face.
The literal truth is, I have never been a registered Republican. Nor a Democrat.

I didn't become a Republican because I think nine out of every 10 non-military jobs in our government are USELESS. I didn't become a Dem because they are gutless cowards---definitely not real Americans.
Like I said on the other thread. It doesn't matter how you registered - it matters how you vote.

And of course you can't refute any of the facts I cited.
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You're so completely biased in favor of the Republican Party, that you simply refuse to believe anything negative about them - even when the truth is right there staring you in the face.
The literal truth is, I have never been a registered Republican. Nor a Democrat.

I didn't become a Republican because I think nine out of every 10 non-military jobs in our government are USELESS. I didn't become a Dem because they are gutless cowards---definitely not real Americans.
Like I said on the other thread. It doesn't matter how you registered - it matters how you vote.

And of course you can't refute any of the facts I cited.
You cited NO facts. I oppose the Democratic Party, that is quite true. That does not mean I am biased in favor of Republicans. It merely means I know the internal enemies of America when and where I see them---and Dems amply fill that bill.
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You're so completely biased in favor of the Republican Party, that you simply refuse to believe anything negative about them - even when the truth is right there staring you in the face.
The literal truth is, I have never been a registered Republican. Nor a Democrat.

I didn't become a Republican because I think nine out of every 10 non-military jobs in our government are USELESS. I didn't become a Dem because they are gutless cowards---definitely not real Americans.
Like I said on the other thread. It doesn't matter how you registered - it matters how you vote.

And of course you can't refute any of the facts I cited.
You cited NO facts. I oppose the Democratic Party, that is quite true. That does not mean I am biased in favor of Republicans. It merely means I know the internal enemies of America when and where I see them---and Dems amply fill that bill.
Stop dancing around the issue...you know you can't defend it...that's why you're doing all the evading.

If the Democrats are the enemy then by your own definition you HAVE to support the Republicans to stop them. Just admit it.

And as far as facts, how about this fact?... Read it and weep:

"In 1994 there were 1,500 such [earmarked] projects stuffed into Democratic spending bills, and Republicans called this a fiscal disgrace. This year Republicans approved closer to 15,000 earmarks at a cost of more than $10 billion. The current leadership defended this earmarking even after such embarrassments as the Alaska ‘Bridge to Nowhere’ [earmark] were exposed."

The article is from the Wall Street Journal opinion page stating "The House GOP needs a new generation of leaders."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110009222
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