No Social Con on the Ballot? - Page 2

DeadCenter · #11 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 11:18 AM

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That’s the best they can do to spin Romney into a non-Social Conservative

of course they fail to mention he didn’t pass one piece of legislation that was Pro-Choice...but that’s beside the point. Easy to understand msnbc spinning that, unfortunate to see JavaBlack played it stupid.

He’s “Right” enough for me, where do you think the “Far-Right” would wish him to be more extreme?

And “Most of America” is “Center-Right”, with the only exception being abortion in which they’re “Center” (well...current American voters anywho).

What kind of pro life bill was Romney supposed to pass? He's governor, which means he won't see any pro life legislation and never had a single opportunity to pass anything. Romney can say what he likes about his issue on abortion in Mass because he'd never have to vote on anything. Unless you live in a rare state that wants to pass a bill banning abortion in hopes to use it to challenge Roe v Wade, a governor's position (from any state) on abortion is completely meaningless.

Nope, I don't think any pro-life legislation came up when he was in office, he only had the chance to

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veto an emergency contraception bill in July 2005, claiming that allowing it to pass into law would violate his "moratorium" on changes to the abortion laws.

DeadCenter · #12 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 11:43 AM

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Of all the top tier candidates, McCain has the best socially conservative record http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_ca...an_id=S0061103

I guess that’s an easy thing to do on a website that doesn’t rate the other top contenders.

...but as a general statement...its factually incorrect.

NedC · #13 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 12:26 PM

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Of all the top tier candidates, McCain has the best socially conservative record http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_ca...an_id=S0061103

I guess that’s an easy thing to do on a website that doesn’t rate the other top contenders.

...but as a general statement...its factually incorrect.

I should have just said that John McCain is a social conservative, which answers the threads question of whether there is a social con or not. Also I urge anyone to prove that any of the top tier has a more socially conservative record than Sen. McCain.

Sadistic-Savior · #14 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 03:04 PM

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No Social Con on the Ballot?

Thats because most of them are Paleocons, and Paleocons are isolationists.

But the aggressive-foreign-policy neocons dominate Republican ideology right now. I hope they enjoyed their little heyday with Nixon, cuz it's gone forever now. We own the paleocons...we own them so much they might as well have "Property of the neocons" branded on their collective asѕes. (Oh yeah, I went there)

They are lucky we agree with them on the big stuff like abortion.

Liberty · #15 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 04:14 PM

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Also I urge anyone to prove that any of the top tier has a more socially conservative record than Sen. McCain.

That's not much of a challenge given that the only other top tier candidate right now is Giuliani.

NedC · #16 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 05:28 PM

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Also I urge anyone to prove that any of the top tier has a more socially conservative record than Sen. McCain.

That's not much of a challenge given that the only other top tier candidate right now is Giuliani.

Mitt Romney isn't, or maybe a dream candidate?

DeadCenter · #17 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 07:47 PM

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Of all the top tier candidates, McCain has the best socially conservative record http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_ca...an_id=S0061103

I guess that’s an easy thing to do on a website that doesn’t rate the other top contenders.

...but as a general statement...its factually incorrect.

Also I urge anyone to prove that any of the top tier has a more socially conservative record than Sen. McCain.

Romney matches all of McCain’s Conservative positions and beats him where McCain’s a Liberal: Immigration, Campaign Finance Reform, Stem Cell Research and “in the middle” on Homosexual Marriage.

McCain is an all out Conservative with foreign policy, but falls short of being a domestic Conservative. Sorry

Liberty · #18 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 10:34 PM

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Mitt Romney isn't, or maybe a dream candidate?

Doesn't seem that way yet based on the polls.

NedC · #19 (**permalink**) 05-04-2007, 11:12 PM

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Of all the top tier candidates, McCain has the best socially conservative record http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_ca...an_id=S0061103

I guess that’s an easy thing to do on a website that doesn’t rate the other top contenders.

...but as a general statement...its factually incorrect.

Also I urge anyone to prove that any of the top tier has a more socially conservative record than Sen. McCain.

Romney matches all of McCain’s Conservative positions and beats him where McCain’s a Liberal: Immigration, Campaign Finance Reform, Stem Cell Research and “in the middle” on Homosexual Marriage.

McCain is an all out Conservative with foreign policy, but falls short of being a domestic Conservative. Sorry

When judging my candidates I look for consistancy.

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