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Old 05-03-2007, 07:56 AM
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My take is that the social cons are learning the same hard lesson I hope the hardcore leftists learn in the near future: You're not as big and powerful a force as you imagine.
Could it be that the voters prefer someone closer to the center?
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I think Romney is conservative, but I think the current candidates is more of a reflection of there not being any other social conservatives of a high enough profile to run. Although I do feel Romney will be that.
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I think Romney is conservative, but I think the current candidates is more of a reflection of there not being any other social conservatives of a high enough profile to run. Although I do feel Romney will be that.
You're far from being a far-right-winger, Rebellion. The far right don't see Romney as all that conservative... just the most conservative of the bunch.
I think another way to put it is the most conservative guy who would actually have mass appeal to voters.
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Although I agree yes he is the most conservative of the bunch and not an ideal candidate for the Pat Robertson's. Although I don't think those types have much power anyway.
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They don't. They just think they do. Most of America is centrist on most everything. So we tend to get people who lead in the center. No big shock there.
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And former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who only five years ago said he supported the “substance” of the Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade abortion decision, has altered his views to become what he now calls “firmly pro-life.”
That’s the best they can do to spin Romney into a non-Social Conservative of course they fail to mention he didn’t pass one piece of legislation that was Pro-Choice...but that’s beside the point. Easy to understand msnbc spinning that, unfortunate to see JavaBlack played it stupid.

He’s “Right” enough for me, where do you think the “Far-Right” would wish him to be more extreme?


And “Most of America” is “Center-Right”, with the only exception being abortion in which they’re “Center” (well...current American voters anywho).
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Romney is pretty social conservative and many of theothers as wll depending on issue.

The main issue is The Global War on Terror....which Democrat Presidential Canidates.. excluding 3!..don't even acknowledge exists.
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And “Most of America” is “Center-Right”, with the only exception being abortion in which they’re “Center” (well...current American voters anywho).
The majority of voters might take a right-wing stance when given two choices on a survey, center-to-right when given a more complex set of choices... but the fact remains that a majority of Americans do not think that these so-called "social issues" are important. They don't lose sleep over it.
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Of all the top tier candidates, McCain has the best socially conservative record http://votesmart.org/issue_rating_ca...an_id=S0061103
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That’s the best they can do to spin Romney into a non-Social Conservative of course they fail to mention he didn’t pass one piece of legislation that was Pro-Choice...but that’s beside the point. Easy to understand msnbc spinning that, unfortunate to see JavaBlack played it stupid.

He’s “Right” enough for me, where do you think the “Far-Right” would wish him to be more extreme?


And “Most of America” is “Center-Right”, with the only exception being abortion in which they’re “Center” (well...current American voters anywho).
What kind of pro life bill was Romney supposed to pass? He's governor, which means he won't see any pro life legislation and never had a single opportunity to pass anything. Romney can say what he likes about his issue on abortion in Mass because he'd never have to vote on anything. Unless you live in a rare state that wants to pass a bill banning abortion in hopes to use it to challenge Roe v Wade, a governor's position (from any state) on abortion is completely meaningless.
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