Now we are getting on to a serious subject, something that really matters RUGBY.

Go the Wallabies!!!!

Women Pres, don't think it will happen for a while, certainly not Hillary. She would be too busy keeping Bill away from the interns.

I remember when Maggie Thatcher was PM, and came up with a plan to transfer ownership of council housing to the families who lived there. The reasoning was, these families were the second, third, fourth, or fifth generations who had been living in state-supported housing developments. So, the theory went, let's give them the pride of ownership, and a nudge into being more independent, by allowing them to spend exactly the same amount on the units that they were already spending, but have those payments go toward ownership.

OK, let's look at it for what it really was: a thinly veiled attempt to put the brakes on the rapid decline of Britain into total socialism.

And it failed. It was seen as a government conspiracy, somehow to defraud the righteous British citizen of his entitlement to have the government take care of him.

So whenever I hear someone go after Maggie, I'm pretty sure he is a radical lefty, who really hated her efforts to revive the feisty, independent, British character of old. I love England, have spent a lot of time there, have good friends there, have sponsored British interns in my business here, and feel a real connection to the mother country. But I hate seeing it slide into the same socialist, entitlement-driven, appeasement-seeking, mess that characterizes so much of Europe.

I'd love to see Condi Rice run against Hillary. It would be great to see Hill trying to spin that one. She doesn't have the experience, she doesn't have the knowledge, and she just plain doesn't have the smarts to be president, and depriving her of the ability to blame sexism for her defeat would be worth watching.

BTW, just what exactly did Bill DO to be considered the best president in American history? What programs of his led to the economic boom of the 90's? What was his economic program? How did he make the country safer? How did he generate respect for America? Aside from creating a bogus "surplus" by raising taxes and decimating the military, just what did he accomplish? And what did that "surplus" do, exactly, for the economy? Or for the country in general? We were slipping rapidly into recession during his last year in office. What did he do about it? What were his successes? What did you like about his fiscal policy? His domestic policy? His foreign policy? What were his achievements?

I think Hill will make a run for president. I live in Arkansas so as you can imagine rumors about the Clintons spread very quickly, many say that the reason why they encouraged Clark to run was because they would like him as her running mate in 2008 should Kerry lose this election.

While I don't buy into the whole grand Clinton-Clark conspiracy, I do think that she will make a run at it. I talked with Dale Bumpers a while back in DC, he is a good friend of the Clintons, even he thinks Hillary will run in 2008. If she ran in 2004 everyone would say that she only became a senator to get credibility to run for president. And as Bumpers pointed out she will likely not wait till 2012 because she will be in her 60's then, so 2008 will likely be the year should Kerry lose.

Oh, there is no doubt that Hillary will run in 2008. While there may not be an absolute conspiracy, clearly the worst thing for the Clintons would be for Kerry to win in 2004.

In other words, the Clintons are in the same position as their party: if you're a Democrat, you have to hope things go wrong for the country, to give your boy a boost, and if you're a Clinton, you have to hope things go wrong for your party, to give your girl a boost.

i agree. i think that is a lot of the reason why you do not see any clinton endorsements like were expected. Though the Clintons did encourage Clark to run, no big secret there, they did not endorse him, in fact did not even show up at his announcement speech (i should know, i was there). They tried to stay as distant from this election as possible

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A female prez would be interesting.

"Oh, there is no doubt that Hillary will run in 2008. While there may not be an absolute conspiracy, clearly the worst thing for the Clintons would be for Kerry to win in 2004. "

i doubt she will run.

If you listen to her speaches, and watch her actions, she's made herself a decent senator and she plans to stay there.

Seeing what happened to bill, and what's happening to kerry, i'm not sure why she'd want to go back to the white house. I'm sure she has some dirty little secrets of her own.

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"The belief that nothing exists outside your own mind--surely there must be some way of demonstrating that it was false" - 1984

i doubt hillary will run.

If you listen to her speaches, and watch her actions, she's made herself a decent senator and she plans to stay there.

Seeing what happened to bill, and what's happening to kerry, i'm not sure why she'd want to go back to the white house. I'm sure she has some dirty little secrets of her own.

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"The belief that nothing exists outside your own mind--surely there must be some way of demonstrating that it was false" - 1984

That's a nice bit of political humor. I'll have to steal that one sometime down the road.

Truebrit stated:
"Well, that and the fact that President Kerry will be running for re-election in '08...."
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Yeah, I will captain the next space shuttle. Seriously, the outcome of this election is far from a certainty for either candidate. Indeed, it will once again be a cliff-hanger that comes down to the results of a few key "battleground" or "swing" states. And, unless John Kerry can define himself as a candidate, develop a message, and stay the course with that message, he could end up "giving" the election to Bush. Oh yes, it would also help immensely if John Kerry could develop a personality between now and November's.

TMTH