Paul seems to be a good man.

I'm kinda confused about why he buys into some of the Libertarian ideas on trade and economics, though.

He seems like an eminently practical man, and yet he doesn't understand how scary some of these ideas would be, to the American business community?

I mean, I don't know about you, but "in the last twenty years or so", I haven't heard any good new ideas in favor of protectionism. It's like, the time for that is long past, in terms of the usefulness it could provide. These days, you can't turn your trade inward, not when people are buying Chinese goods from Wal-Mart. I mean, could you see that? "Oh yes, Mr. President Paul sir, we will gladly compromise both our bottom line and our investor relations, for the good of the country, just because you asked".

I dunno - I rather suspect that if Ron Paul actually got elected, a substantial fraction of American business would just tell the guy to go (*)(*)(*)(*) off, and then he'd have to go enforce all those good ideas - and what do you think he'd do then? Do you think he'd be an authoritarian and clamp down on 'em and force 'em to play ball? I don't think so - I rather think that this would cause one of those very unlikely situations in which all businessmen everywhere suddenly agree on something.

So, do you know anything about Paul's economic background, or why he's bought into some of these untimely ideas on trade and tariffs and so on?

I wasn't talking about the troops. "storm trooper" is the term I use to mock the imbeciles at the Stormfront TM, a neo-nazi website.

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Well, I think he favors tariffs simply because he prefers tariffs over taxes to fund government with.

These businesses aren't going to be upset at all with Paul. Mainly because once he repeals the income tax and the corporate income tax, they'll be keeping all of their money... Now who's going to be upset with that? No one with at least half a brain.

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Companies that wish to grow rich with the global market.

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Yep pretty much. So far all Ron Paul has managed to do is lob softballs for Giuliani to hit out of the park. He is a canidate of some very bad ideas. Comparing the man to Hilter though... That not entirely fair.

How is someone against free trade a republican anyway? Thats like Hilary running as a libertarian.

Seriously though, tariffs. Who in their right mind wants protectionalism. That is one of the worst democratic policies. Corporate taxes need to go, but tariffs?

Im sorry, do you have a link that shows that a majority of Americans do understand what a Ron Paul Presidency would really be like?

Most people can't name their congressman, yet you assume they are familiar with Ron Pauls stances on the economy?

Ixtellor

P.S. Ron Paul is not a racist. I think the racists might be drawn to him because they like States rights and invision making a white's only State. Probably Alabama.

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bunch of phonies.

Appeal to the majority is always a fallacy. Regardless, your mischaracterizations of what a Ron Paul Presidency would really be like aren't the truth.

Most people can't name their congressman - and you are just fine with them electing another President that would reflect your views...

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As a libertarian I would love to see Ron Paul gain significant ground during this election. But its just not going to happen.

What I would like to see is after the primaries is to see him run on a 3rd party ticket with someone else who can make people take notice. Off the top of my head I dont really know who I would have him run with, but there are definitely people out there.

My concern with that though is that if Paul runs as a 3rd party candidate I believe it will hurt the Republican candidate more than Hillary who will inevitably be the Dem candidate. If it was Obama or really any other Dem then I wouldnt worry since I dont have a problem with them. But my main concern at this point is I want Hillary to lose.

So unless Paul had a real chance as a 3rd party candidate I think it could almost do more harm than good. I hate to say it because I always have hated the 2 party system, but in this instance with Darth Hillary looking like the front runner I think that even a bozo like Giuliani would be a better choice and I want him as strong as possible running against her.

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Never say never, my friend. Wait until the votes are cast and counted. Again, he doesn't need to win. If he is able to place in even third place in some of these primaries, it will send a message to the establishment.

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