Thread: Time for Paul & Gingrich to STEP ASIDE.....

Originally Posted by marbro

Paul is not going to step aside, and with the way him and his supporters have been treated by the press and the establishment republicans, they are going to make life hell.

You will just have to deal with it much like we have had to deal with the little girls crying about it.

Ron Paul and his supporters are here till then end!!

RON PAUL 2012

It is perfectly fine for Paul supporters to be ARDENT supporters to the END. In fact, you should be!

The question is, WHEN is the end? Is the end when Paul loses the primaries? Is the end when Paul drops out?

ONE of those 2 things IS going to happen. He WILL lose or he will drop out.

THEN,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT do you do? Paul IS a registered Republican. That is Paul's chosen party. Paul IS running to be the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. Paul WILL be a gracious gentleman when it is over and he is not the nominee.

Will Paul supporters be as gracious? Will Paul supporters be supporters of the person that beats Paul in the primaries? AS PAUL WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE?

Originally Posted by 9/11 was an inside job

Romney is tied to a group of terrorists.He is the poster boy for the CFR.Thats why I think he MIGHT get elected.

^^^^^^

If this is the sort of thinking of Ron Paul's supporters, paranoid conspiracy theory and 9/11 truth. I'd rather not have their support.

I'm not climbing into bed with whackjob tinfoil hats, militia types, white nationalists, etc.. regardless of the outcome of the election. Neither am I interested in climbing into bed with a drug addicted, anarcho-youth block.

Originally Posted by Dan40

It is perfectly fine for Paul supporters to be ARDENT supporters to the END. In fact, you should be!

The question is, WHEN is the end? Is the end when Paul loses the primaries? Is the end when Paul drops out?

ONE of those 2 things IS going to happen. He WILL lose or he will drop out.

THEN,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT do you do? Paul IS a registered Republican. That is Paul's chosen party. Paul IS running to be the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. Paul WILL be a gracious gentleman when it is over and he is not the nominee.

Will Paul supporters be as gracious? Will Paul supporters be supporters of the person that beats Paul in the primaries? AS PAUL WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE?

If he himself is extremely reluctant to endorse the "eventual nominee", what makes you believe any of his supporters would, and moreover, why would he want us to support this "eventual nominee"?

If Paul did in fact endorse the Republican nominee at this point, he would lose my support immediately, along with the rest of the libertarian base. How the GOP honestly believes they can win this election without us is completely beyond me.

Originally Posted by Dan40

It is perfectly fine for Paul supporters to be ARDENT supporters to the END. In fact, you should be!

The question is, WHEN is the end? Is the end when Paul loses the primaries? Is the end when Paul drops out?

ONE of those 2 things IS going to happen. He WILL lose or he will drop out.

THEN,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT do you do? Paul IS a registered Republican. That is Paul's chosen party. Paul IS running to be the REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. Paul WILL be a gracious gentleman when it is over and he is not the nominee.

Will Paul supporters be as gracious? Will Paul supporters be supporters of the person that beats Paul in the primaries? AS PAUL WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE?

Its kinda too late to be just about Paul anymore. A lot of folks have waken up to the fact that both major Parties have failed this country. For me, Paul may be the last republican I vote for. I dont see any others that have proven to

Reduce spending
Reduce taxes
Adhere to our contstitution as much as possible and NOT PROGRESS away from it
Be fiscially responsible
And protect individual liberties.

Paul is a champion of this movement he is not the movement. It will only grow and continue well beyond Ron Paul.

If Paul were to endorce Mitt, I would vote Gary Johnson instead of writing in Paul.

For most folks its about beating Obama, for me its about restoring this country. I wanted to help change the republican party back to its roots of True conservitism but folks have sold out to liberals just to beat OBama. Well, have it and good luck.

Originally Posted by Wildjoker5

I don't get your reasoning here. Do you think Pauls 15% is going to actually vote for 1 of the 4 people completely opposite of their values and all the same? Sorry, but that 15% is going to stay fighting against these big government progressives, whether they are from the right or left, you are all the same.

Exactly. The bozos who disenfranchise us expect us to fall in line on election day. Not me.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqsyzTrWS0g"]Did Maine GOP Blatantly Cheat Ron Paul out of a Victory? - YouTube[/ame]

Originally Posted by Libhater

Romney couldn't be more opposite than obama in any of his policies or beliefs if he tried. Rather than spoil all your fantasy thoughts about Romney, I'll zero in on one.

In Massachusetts, Romney balanced the budget every year without raising taxes.

That is as big of a lie as Obama has "not raised taxes on the middle class".

But hey, what is a $10 tax on used cars anyways? That and 88 other forms of hidden taxes raised

He fought to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% and created budgets on a 5% income tax. When the state's Democratically controlled Senate tried to raise Capital gains taxes, he not only successfully oposed it, but he also got the capital gains taxes cut. Balancing the budget without a tax hike has been his most sifnificant accomplishment as governor.

User fee on private insurance.
Corporate tax increase.
Petroleum moving tax.
Registry of Deeds tax.
Fees from Children's Medical Security Program co-pays and premiums.

Yeah, he is as great as Obama.

And stop trying to link Romney's healthcare plan to obama's government style one.

I am not. Romney said he would put his own healthcare bill in that forced insurance companies to cover the "uninsurable" during one of the debates.

They are two opposites again. Romney has given us his 57 page domestic jobs and energy producing plan to get Americans working again, and getting America to be self supporting rather than relying on foreign oil.

He still has to get congress to approve.

Romney happened to be a successful businessman where obama became a comunity organizer leeching from the federal government in order to say he did some good in minority or poverty stricken neighborhoods.

I totally agree.

Romney was a leader as governor of Mass, and of revitalizing a dying Olympics. Obama has been an abject failure in everything he has tried to do via socialism. The two men are as different as Reagan was to Castro.

Well, between their private business careers maybe, but when it comes to political ideology, they are as different as Fidel and Raul, Castro.

Originally Posted by thatkimjongilisanucklehed

If he himself is extremely reluctant to endorse the "eventual nominee", what makes you believe any of his supporters would, and moreover, why would he want us to support this "eventual nominee"?

If Paul did in fact endorse the Republican nominee at this point, he would lose my support immediately, along with the rest of the libertarian base. How the GOP honestly believes they can win this election without us is completely beyond me.

What you and the rest of the cement minded Paulobots are actually saying is that there is NO WAY the GOP could get your support. Paul cannot win, PERIOD. He has support ONLY with the immaturely young, the least educated and the lowest paid. And NONE of those 3 groups get out and VOTE. Paul would have WON in Maine with 2200 total votes. He got less than 2000. He has NO strong support among conservatives. He has no strong support among the tea party. He has no strong support among Independents, He has no strong support among moderates. He has the support of the naive and the ineffective.

Paul IS part of the GOP. You will not vote for the GOP. How does the GOP deal with nonsensical immature statements like that?

When you say you're going to stomp your feet and scream until you get your way, sensible ADULTS ignore you.

Originally Posted by Dan40

He has support ONLY with the immaturely young, the least educated and the lowest paid. Paul would have WON in Maine with 2200 total votes. He got less than 2000.

Immaturely young...says the man calling people "Paulobots". I'm pretty sure I'm more mature and educated than you. I'm definitely not the lowest paid...

...and newsflash for you genius....Paul is probably going to win Maine. They will be doing a recount with all the votes that should be taken into count...

Originally Posted by Dan40

What you and the rest of the cement minded Paulobots are actually saying is that there is NO WAY the GOP could get your support. Paul cannot win, PERIOD. He has support ONLY with the immaturely young, the least educated and the lowest paid. And NONE of those 3 groups get out and VOTE. Paul would have WON in Maine with 2200 total votes. He got less than 2000. He has NO strong support among conservatives. He has no strong support among the tea party. He has no strong support among Independents, He has no strong support among moderates. He has the support of the naive and the ineffective.

Paul IS part of the GOP. You will not vote for the GOP. How does the GOP deal with nonsensical immature statements like that?

When you say you're going to stomp your feet and scream until you get your way, sensible ADULTS ignore you.

All you're doing is parroting MSM talking points.

Parrot this, Danno.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3bskuJNYzU&feature=pl ayer_embedded"]CNN Shocked by New Poll About Ron Paul - YouTube[/ame]

Originally Posted by Krypt

Immaturely young...says the man calling people "Paulobots". I'm pretty sure I'm more mature and educated than you. I'm definitely not the lowest paid...

...and newsflash for you genius....Paul is probably going to win Maine. They will be doing a recount with all the votes that should be taken into count...

Though I beleive he did really win Main, I doubt he will win a recount I hope he does but .... They didnt want the votes made public and its the counties that made them public anyways that are showing the discrepancies. An example, One county they voted to have all their votes made public and they had Ron Paul as the winner but when they called it in, the state GOP already had Mitt as the winner with different numbers. Its only because this particular county made it public that we see the FRAUD but the rest... what can we do? They will just fudge the numbers for the counties they keep private.

Worse yet, was what happen in Portland where Ron Paul won most of the county delegates and they just decided to void it all out.......It gotten real bad in Maine. I hope they do uncover it all and show how the establishment has been fixing this election from the start.