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    Quote Originally Posted by Big George View Post
    So you and your dad allow all your thoughts to be manipulated by YouTube. Brilliant.
    Right, my dad, who is part of the demographic that doesn't watch youtube, and me, who doesn't watch youtube, was influenced by youtube. Brilliant deduction, or should i say speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roelath View Post
    Sorry, when you ask for someone to stop running for the nomination based up their age... that is an attack. It doesn't matter if you're 100+ and typing on these forums because you're still "attacking" his age then further requesting he no longer run because of it.
    Ron Paul isn't too old to be President. He's the age of my dad.

    What Ron Paul IS, is too crazy to be President. For those willing to actually do the research, Ron Paul comes out looking crazier all the time.

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    LOL the anti Ron Paul crusaders here never have anything of worth against him. Always BS.

    The veterans for paul do support him and they will show their support this Monday.

    "Veterans for Ron Paul" to march on Washington on Presidents' Day

    Thousands are expected to gather in Washington DC on Presidents' Day on Monday in an effort to demonstrate to the American public that Ron Paul is the clear choice of the troops.

    Adam Kokesh, a veteran of the Iraq war, an outspoken activist, and host of Adam vs. The Man, co-founded Veterans for Ron Paul 2012 with Nathan Cox, and together they have worked to organize an event to bring attention to a fact that the mainstream media has largely ignored: Ron Paul receives more campaign contributions from active duty military than all of the other presidential candidates combined, including Barack Obama. Ron Paul's top three donors are Army, Navy, and Air Force. Paul supporters often contrast that with Mitt Romney's top three donors: Goldman Sachs, Credit Suisse Group, and Morgan Stanley.

    Kokesh, Cox, and other Paul supporters have been frustrated by the lack of mainstream media attention highlighting the troops' support for Ron Paul and his non-interventionist foreign policy. Nathan Cox, 30, believes the media wants to keep Americans in the dark.

    Cox, who served in the Army Infantry from 2006 to 2009, says that he first heard about Paul when he was deployed in Iraq. He described himself as "politically apathetic" when it came to politics, but in 2007 when a friend sent him YouTube links to Republican debates and interviews with presidential candidate Ron Paul, his apathy began to dissipate. He said that everything Paul said made complete sense to him. He wasn't only drawn to Paul's positions on the nation's interventionist foreign policy, but also his views on the government's interventionist economic and domestic policies.

    From there, Cox bought and read several books: Revolution: A Manifesto by Ron Paul, Blowback by Chalmers Johnson, and a few on Austrian economics.

    "And that's how I woke up," Cox told Examiner. "People say that Dr. Paul cured their apathy. He absolutely cured mine." Cox says he realized that the war he had been fighting in was unconstitutional because it had not been declared. He said,


    I realized that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. I realized the reasons we went into Iraq were very likely a lie to begin with. And if Iraq did have nuclear weapons, why couldn't we have done what we've done in the past and try to resolve things diplomatically and peacefully?

    Cox hopes that this effort to bring veterans for Ron Paul to Washington on Monday will wake up others as well.

    This march is different than other marches that take place in Washington. All Paul supporters are invited to attend, but only veterans and active duty members will be allowed to participate in the planned military formation march from the Washington Monument to the White House.

    The march will begin towards the White House, then turn left on Pennsylvania Ave, and come to a halt at 1600. They will then do an about face and present a hand salute to a folded American flag for as many seconds as troops have died since President Obama took office, then march silently back to the Washington monument and fall out of formation.

    Hundreds of veterans and active duty are expected to participate in the formation. Nearly two thousand have officially RSVP'd, but Cox expects there to be between three to five thousand people in attendance. The march will be followed by an "after party" with musical performances by Aimee Allen, Jordan Page, Golden State, and Rebel Inc.



    On Thursday, the military issued a warning to the organizers of the march (who are not affiliated with or funded by the Paul campaign) and reminded them of DoD Directive 1344.10 paragraph 4.1.2.10 that restricts active duty personnel from participating in political marches that could be viewed as an official endorsement of a candidate, whether dressed in uniform or civilian clothes. Kokesh and Cox have encouraged attendees to act according to their own conscience. In a message on the Facebook event page, they wrote,




    It is an absurd proposition to say that members of the military supporting candidates in uniform would be construed to represent official positions of the government and rules regarding free speech for members of the military have only been used to silence dissent and keep the true will of the troops from being relevant in the American political discourse. Well, NOT ANY MORE!



    Cox told Examiner that it has been inspiring to read the emails pouring in from veterans and active duty members who are coming from across the country to be there. One soldier is even traveling from Alaska.



    There are many in the media who downplay the support Paul receives from veterans and active duty members and who rarely emphasize that Paul is the only candidate in the presidential race who is a veteran. At the end of last year, pundit Dick Morris made a comment on the Sean Hannity show that angered Paul supporters: "Ron Paul would weaken America so much that no true patriot could be for Ron Paul."



    Paul supporters strongly disagree with Morris and wish that Americans would understand Paul's position that America's defense is actually weakened when troops are spread across the world. Ron Paul has said that national defense is the single most important responsibility the Constitution entrusts to the federal government, but he is often painted as weak on defense because he believes our government should exhaust diplomatic options before sending troops to war and that when the nation does decide to go to war Congress should officially declare it.



    Cox felt Morris's comments questioning Paul's supporters' patriotism were outrageous. He said,


    I don't think [Morris] understands the definition of a patriot. In my opinion, a patriot is someone who stands up against the government when they know their government is wrong. That's what Ron Paul has been doing for decades now. He has been calling out the tyrannical statist government ever since he got in office.



    In 2008, Kokesh delivered a speech at the "Revolution March" in Washington, DC that echoes Cox's sentiments:




    To rally the troops of the Revolutionary Army in the winter of 1776, Thomas Paine said, “These are the times that try men’s souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot, will in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered.”


    As Iraq Veterans Against the War, we are resisting an occupation that we once risked our lives for. We swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, but we found out the hard way that the greatest enemies of the Constitution are not to be found in the sands of some far off land, but rather right here at home! ...Yellow ribbons and lapel pins will not save this country. When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. The utmost manifestation of love and devotion to America is today, as it always has been, resistance of tyranny.

    To learn more about the march, visit the "Ron Paul is the Choice of the Troops" event page.

    Continue reading on Examiner.com "Veterans for Ron Paul" to march on Washington on Presidents' Day - Salt Lake City Independent | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/independent-...#ixzz1ml2rEshD
    Last edited by marbro; Feb 18 2012 at 10:04 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big George View Post
    Ron Paul isn't too old to be President. He's the age of my dad.

    What Ron Paul IS, is too crazy to be President. For those willing to actually do the research, Ron Paul comes out looking crazier all the time.
    What makes him crazy other than the fact that you're brainwashed and don't realize that everything he has said is the truth?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildjoker5 View Post
    Right, my dad, who is part of the demographic that doesn't watch youtube, and me, who doesn't watch youtube, was influenced by youtube. Brilliant deduction, or should i say speculation.
    I've not yet one single Ron Paul Zealot who wasn't just plain nuts. Well, many are ignorant too, so I guess you're a combination of ignorant and nuts. I don't know where y'all get your news, but it's certainly "creative," to say the least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big George View Post
    I've not yet one single Ron Paul Zealot who wasn't just plain nuts. Well, many are ignorant too, so I guess you're a combination of ignorant and nuts. I don't know where y'all get your news, but it's certainly "creative," to say the least...
    BLAH BLAH BLAH. you got cought lying and then you ran lol

    ALL you can do is attack the posters and make up accusations. YOU HAVE NOTHING
    I fear not terrorist, I fear the loss of liberty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkCitizen View Post
    What makes him crazy other than the fact that you're brainwashed and don't realize that everything he has said is the truth?
    Wrong. Ron Paul is a lying double-talker. His "stance" on abortion? Complete and total cowardly BS. His "stance" on drugs? Double-speak. His "stance" on foreign policy? Absolutely insane. His Congressional record? Virtually non-existent.

    YOU are the one who is brain-washed, and is gulping down the Ron Paul Kool-Aid. Open your eyes. The guy is nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big George View Post
    Ron Paul isn't too old to be President. He's the age of my dad.

    What Ron Paul IS, is too crazy to be President. For those willing to actually do the research, Ron Paul comes out looking crazier all the time.
    That constitution think is just SOOOOOOO crazy. And breaking up the fed which has devalued our currency since getting totally off the gold standard by 90%+ is crazy Idea. Keeping our troops from dying in far off lands that pose no possible threat to our homes is CRAZY. Having our troops pay more attention to our borders than to Pakistan's is super crazy. I mean wow, if all politicians were this crazy, I don't think we would be $15 trillion in debt.
    Liberalism; such great ideas, they need to force you to follow them.

    Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.

    2012 = Turd sandwich vs Giant D*&che

    Economic Left/Right: 7.38
    Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.08

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    Quote Originally Posted by marbro View Post
    BLAH BLAH BLAH. you got cought lying and then you ran lol

    ALL you can do is attack the posters and make up accusations. YOU HAVE NOTHING
    I absolutely PROVED that Ron Paul is a bold-faced LIAR, regarding his Abortion Stance BS. I'm sorry you're too dense to understand how the law reads and works - which is why you're a Ron Paul nut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big George View Post
    I absolutely PROVED that Ron Paul is a bold-faced LIAR, regarding his Abortion Stance BS. I'm sorry you're too dense to understand how the law reads and works - which is why you're a Ron Paul nut.
    POST IT HERE!!! where is your proof!!

    PUT UP OR SHUT UP LOL
    I fear not terrorist, I fear the loss of liberty.

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