Thread: The ineffectiveness of Ron Paul

Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0

Yet young voters tend to gravitate more towards the Democratic Party and liberalism rather than the Ron Paul, Rand Paul, the Republican Party, and libertarianism. Unless Paul can make his views more appealing to young voters that are current turned off to his unconventional economic ideas and change some of his social stances on issues such as abortion, his movement over time may gain more traction. Until then, his voter base will not have a significant impact on elections and primaries.

On the contrary...Paul's 'common sense' message bridges both parties better then ANY major candidate including Obama.

And his message is just now starting to be noticed by the masses.

Give it time.

Originally Posted by Krypt

Still waiting for Big George to answer this question...

Is StormFront a legitimate company?

Originally Posted by Big George

Is StormFront a legitimate company?

Sad attempt at a troll post...

Originally Posted by Big George

Is StormFront a legitimate company?

Stormfront is not a company. It is an internet forum that has no relation to Ron Paul's campaign. If you can refute this statement, explain how Stormfront has contributed to Ron Paul's campaign in a manner greater than an internet forum such as PF contributes to his campaign.

Originally Posted by DA60

On the contrary...Paul's 'common sense' message bridges both parties better then ANY major candidate including Obama.

And his message is just now starting to be noticed by the masses.

Give it time.

I think you are a bit overoptimistic. Ron Paul's movement has gained traction with younger voters, but only a small portion of them. The majority over young voters are still likely to vote for the President, and are still liberal rather than libertarian. As you said, it will take time. However, I do not think two more election cycles is enough.

Originally Posted by Dan40

4 years ago the national debt was $8.7 trillion. Now its $15.5 trillion thanx to DEMOCRATS. If obama is reelected the debt will go up by over $2 trillion per year, with interest you'll be looking at $25 to $26 trillion in national debt in only 4 years.

NO you can't wait!

You must, NOW, pick what is best for the nation. Not what you want. Not what you WISH was the case. You have to pick the best from the only choices available. You think us old people prefer that? No, we don't like it either. But you learn that there are some jobs in life that we may hate to do but we must do them anyway.

It one of those things that the military teaches us, You don't have to like it, you just have to do it.

That is why America is failing...second rate politician's and compromising, band wagon-hopping voters.


That is the difference (on this) between you and I;

you will compromise your political ideals.

I NEVER will.


'It's better to be dead and cool, then alive and uncool.'

MUCH BETTER.

Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0

I think you are a bit overoptimistic. Ron Paul's movement has gained traction with younger voters, but only a small portion of them. The majority over young voters are still likely to vote for the President, and are still liberal rather than libertarian. As you said, it will take time. However, I do not think two more election cycles is enough.

We will see.

Originally Posted by DA60

Getting a bit desperate are we?

Clock ticking louder is it?



That is why America is failing...second rate politician's.

That is the difference (on this) between you and I;

you will compromise your political ideals.

I NEVER will.


And if that ends America...so be it.


'It's better to be dead and cool, then alive and uncool.'

MUCH BETTER.

That is a highly principled, yet troubling mindset from my perspective. At some point, you need government to act. As James Madison stated, if men were angels, there would be no need for government. If angels governed, government could be free to act as it pleased. However, because men govern men, we need government to have the ability to act first, and be accountable to we the people second.

Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0

Stormfront is not a company. It is an internet forum that has no relation to Ron Paul's campaign. If you can refute this statement, explain how Stormfront has contributed to Ron Paul's campaign in a manner greater than an internet forum such as PF contributes to his campaign.

Psssttt... I'm fully aware of what StormFront is. And I'm fully aware of the fact that they donated to Ron Paul, and he GLADLY accepted their money.


Shall we talk about PayPal & Palantir?

Originally Posted by thediplomat2.0

That is a highly principled, yet troubling mindset from my perspective. At some point, you need government to act. As James Madison stated, if men were angels, there would be no need for government. If angels governed, government could be free to act as it pleased. However, because men govern men, we need government to have the ability to act first, and be accountable to we the people second.

Yeah, maybe 200 years ago (during his time).

Not anymore.


America's political system needs drastic changes or America will end.

Either way is okay by me...for I have no love for the direction America seems to be taking.

And if it does not (eventually) correct itself...let it end.