Thread: Why the Conservative/Libertarian philosophy is dead

In the end, conservatism/libertarianism always wins. Because it is the most compatible with human nature. Every "progressive" system you dream up will collapse eventually under its own weight. Humans are not "progressive" by nature. And anything that goes against nature will ultimately fail.

To add to this, the Democrats are trying their hardest right now to lose the hispanic vote in this Martin/Zimmerman fiasco. They have made a big no-no. They've divided their base. Pitting the blacks against the hispanics. And they've made it very clear which side they're on.

Originally Posted by Unifier

In the end, conservatism/libertarianism always wins. Because it is the most compatible with human nature. Every "progressive" system you dream up will collapse eventually under its own weight. Humans are not "progressive" by nature. And anything that goes against nature will ultimately fail.

To add to this, the Democrats are trying their hardest right now to lose the hispanic vote in this Martin/Zimmerman fiasco. They have made a big no-no. They've divided their base. Pitting the blacks against the hispanics. And they've made it very clear which side they're on.

Is this the best areguement you can come up with? I guess showing facts is out of the question?

Originally Posted by SiliconMagician

So basically you celebrate the fact that our country was demographically flooded with (*)(*)(*)(*)ing socialists from 3rd world latin America to the point that Democrats can now build a leftist utopia.

As if Republicans are just going to quietly fade into the night. We don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about democracy, the minute the Democrats have single party rule(which is tyranny and something you obviously support) we'll revolt out of necessity to protect our lives.

Single Party Rule is tyranny in a Democracy.

That is exactly what is going to happen. The Conservative philosophy will fade. As it stands today, the Hispanic vote resembles the Black vote. Hispanics are turning into loyal Democrats. Here we are in the middle of what some called the worst recession since the great depression. And still the Hispanics vote for Democrats. And that is despite the fact that Hispanics have a higher unemployment rate than whites.

If you can't get Hispanics to vote for you in the Great Recession, when can you get Hispanics to vote for you?

Comparing Libertarian political philosophy to even "Goldwater" conservatism is a false comparison. While initially founded based upon pre-1970's conservatism the Libertarian political philosophy has evolved greatly since the Libertarian Party's founding in 1971. It is certainly nothing like the "social conservative" philosophy of today which as very authoritarian and advocates the violations of the Rights of the People.

Today the Libertarian political philosophy advocates a much more limited federal government than even Goldwater would have advocated and it advocates far more civil Rights for the People than the Democratic party does today. The problem is that most voters are unaware of this.

Originally Posted by Shiva_TD

Comparing Libertarian political philosophy to even "Goldwater" conservatism is a false comparison. While initially founded based upon pre-1970's conservatism the Libertarian political philosophy has evolved greatly since the Libertarian Party's founding in 1971. It is certainly nothing like the "social conservative" philosophy of today which as very authoritarian and advocates the violations of the Rights of the People.

Today the Libertarian political philosophy advocates a much more limited federal government than even Goldwater would have advocated and it advocates far more civil Rights for the People than the Democratic party does today. The problem is that most voters are unaware of this.

It does not matter whether it is limited government Libertarians or big government Conservatives. Either way, the Libertarian and Conservative philosophies are dead. The demographics do not favor Conservative politics. And Hispanics will guarantee it's death.

Originally Posted by General Fear

It does not matter whether it is limited government Libertarians or big government Conservatives. Either way, the Libertarian and Conservative philosophies are dead. The demographics do not favor Conservative politics. And Hispanics will guarantee it's death.

Hispanics are inherently conservative but oppose the anti-Hispanic immigration policies of Republican politicians. They maybe unaware of Libertarian policies which advocate free immigration but would certainly be highly supportive of it. They are very supportive of liberty and equality which is a primary platform of Libertarian Party. As we know Republicans, especially Mitt Romney, oppose the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment.

No, there isn't a comparison between today's social conservatives of the Republican Party that advocates authoritarian government and the Libertarian Party.

Originally Posted by TaraAnne

Is this the best areguement you can come up with? I guess showing facts is out of the question?

I'll overlook the extra two 'e's in areguement by saying that America has become the greatest economic and military force on earth because of capitalism. Take a trip back to our industrial revolution of the late 19th century and the early 20th century to get a taste of how capitalism fuels the economy, and then look at this attemp by the progressive obama to instill European socialism stateside with our current financial demise ala European style to get a feel for the difference between successful capitalm and faile socialism. What does your quick study tell you about your economic preference for failure?