Analyst
Originally Posted by Bluesguy
I don’t see anything about campaign contributions or elections.
Freedom of assembly;
noun the right to peaceably assemble and to petition the government for redress of grievances; guaranteed by the First Amendment to the US Constitution
How does not giving money to a politician, keep you from joining a picket line, or keep you from signing a petition concerning laws on the books?
Who gives you these notions?
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Guru
Useless without tangible monetary support to the politicians that at least rhetorically share my values. I don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about "equal speech" only "free speech" and freedom is rarely equal. I want my side to win at all costs.
Last edited by SiliconMagician; Jun 20 2012 at 08:33 PM.
Analyst
This is the mentality that has us in a vicious continuous circle of reelecting failure time and time again, but expecting different results.
It's just amazing how the poor minorities vote democrat and the middle class wage earners vote for republicans since they fall into the class warfare rhetoric perpetuated by the most influential corporate controlled propaganda machine in the history of mankind that may have masterfully convinced you that you are on their side, but they surely are not on yours.
The two party system is the problem, not the solution.
“Not a single one of the Fortune 100 companies has contributed a cent” to any of the eight super PACS.
That's because lobbyists purchase corporate sock puppets long before the campaign begins, behind closed doors once they are elected, or with untraceable off shore 'business' accounts just about anytime they choose too.
Last edited by JoeSixpack; Jun 22 2012 at 06:46 AM.
Guru
And you are silly enough to think that only corporations have lobbyists?
You wanna know what the easiest way to get corporations out of elections? Quit giving the government the power to pick economic winners and losers.
Quote Originally Posted by JoeSixpack View Post
NOBODY should be allowed to donate money to a politician they cannot cast a legal vote for, period. So that means corporations/businesses/unions, foreign nations, and yes even special interest groups should be exempt from interfering with or tampering with an election.
Me>> So much for freedom of assembly.
All the embolden are examples of how citizens freely assemble and use those assemblies to express and advance political issues. We are guarantied a right to do so by the Constitution.
""The power to do good is also the power to do harm."
Milton Friedman
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Guru
Still obsessing about the symptom and forgetting the underlying disease, are we?
The disease if grossly excessive government power. Money in elections is just a reaction.
Cut the government power and the money goes away.
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Thats a farce. For starters equal and free are diametrically opposed opposites. For everything to be equal everything must be brought to the lowest common denominator through the abolishment of freedom. A free society is inherently unequal. Some will succeeded some will fail. Some will have the means to get their message out to the people others will not. What matters is that everyone has the chance to succeed. That is what must be protected not equality.
Mens Sana in Corpore Sano
And where do you find that in the Federalist Papers?
""The power to do good is also the power to do harm."
Milton Friedman
."
Guru
The Federalist Papers are not legal documents that hold any sway over how we run the country.
“If there be a human being who is freer than I, then I shall necessarily become his slave. If I am freer than any other, then he will become my slave. Therefore equality is an absolutely necessary condition of freedom.”
- Mikhail Bakunin, Russian anarcho-communist philosopher, 1814-1876
Guru
"The two party system is the problem, not the solution."
Taxcutter asks:
What is your alternative?
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