Thread: Either way it goes, the nation willctually need more socialism unless...

Unless Romney wins and stops the massive unemployment, under employment, teh same communist movement of the 1930;s will have great appeal, since what else can these 28,000,000 people do, but put out their hand???

If Romney does not win, Obama will nationalize the Oil Industry the way Chavez did, by denouncing what he will call, the "oil barons" who the media will vilify.
The price of Gas will have risen to $5 or even $7 per gallon.
The control of all the Oil Resources of any consequence i already under overnment control, and the Fed will not be able to pay its bills otherwise.

Obama will use the depression to reduce all business leaders to pawns whose incomes will never rise to a million dollars again.
Taxes will absorb the stored wealth of most of the rich, but never the politician who are our new aristocracy.

All this will essentially be a consequence of maintaining the Gross Nation Product at the same level it is now, because consumer spending will not increase under the present culture of fear and uncertainty.

After election, the barometer of the Gross Natiinal Produce will predict the step by step empowerment of government to take more and more control of the economy and the work force.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Communism, believe it or not wasn't that strong in America. While the CPUSA did gain more members, it never got important enough. Most people didn't go to the radical left, and rejected the revolutionary goals of the CPUSA.

Originally Posted by Kranes56

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ! Communism, believe it or not wasn't that strong in America. While the CPUSA did gain more members, it never got important enough. Most people didn't go to the radical left, and rejected the revolutionary goals of the CPUSA.

That is true.

WWII solved the problem after Roosevelt played around enough with his failed programs that temporarily gave people the hope to keep them more patient mostly because of faith in him.

I am not complaining about Communism coming, because there is nothing wrong with communism when nobody has anything.
Sharing when everyone is broke is the only way to survive.


There are only twelve Economic Systems of Distribution and they each have a place and a time when they are the best for the Nation.
What I am saying is that when China stops lending and wants America to start paying the principal and interest, the inflation will make people lucky to get a hand out, and willing to work if they can find it.

What I see coming is Romney winning and then watching the economy get worse.
The community organizers will join with the Unions like they did in Germany, and the momentum will drive for a political change from democracy to dictatorship as happened in Venezuela.

The Mexicans nationalized their oil industry.

Pemex is synonymous with corruption and malfeasance.

"...there is nothing wrong with communism when nobody has anything."

Taxcutter says:
In the USSR, Komissars lived like princes and everyone else was poor.

When country's admit they need socialism, they have thrown in the towel, and should prepare themselves for the rape of Social Darwinism.

Socialism is merely the absence of pride and dignity.

Originally Posted by Taxcutter

"...there is nothing wrong with communism when nobody has anything."

Taxcutter says:
In the USSR, Komissars lived like princes and everyone else was poor.

Same withthe unions.

Unionization is really just a way to de facto Tax the consumers by adding the wage increases and uniondues to the price of the goods or services provided by a company which will pass on those increases in cost to the public.
Essentially, union create an unvisible aristocracy that enjoys a hidden and invisible way to collect a de facto Tax for their limited and special members.

If all workers unionize, a Class of workers rises above the others depending upon the relative necessity of the product or sewrvices produced.
The Teamsters can stop all transportation and hence, the eonomy.
Police can cause unsafe choas.
The Firemen can jeapordize personal property.

Originally Posted by custer

When country's admit they need socialism, they have thrown in the towel, and should prepare themselves for the rape of Social Darwinism.

Socialism is merely the absence of pride and dignity.

I think Socialism in America is really Feminism which has force the Nation to act like Big Mommie, trying to take care of everyone like they are children.

America will not permit corporal punishment in the schools andwe see the Class bullies fill the vacuum.
The Policeman is no longer to smack a drunk sleeping in the doorway, so intercities now have whole street filling up with homeless at night who must be nicely asked toleave the Business District before the 9AM actibvities begin.

We essentially now have a Matriarchy where the women think money groqs on trees.

Originally Posted by cupid dave

Unless Romney wins and stops the massive unemployment, under employment, teh same communist movement of the 1930;s will have great appeal, since what else can these 28,000,000 people do, but put out their hand???

If Romney does not win, Obama will nationalize the Oil Industry the way Chavez did, by denouncing what he will call, the "oil barons" who the media will vilify.
The price of Gas will have risen to $5 or even $7 per gallon.
The control of all the Oil Resources of any consequence i already under overnment control, and the Fed will not be able to pay its bills otherwise.

Obama will use the depression to reduce all business leaders to pawns whose incomes will never rise to a million dollars again.
Taxes will absorb the stored wealth of most of the rich, but never the politician who are our new aristocracy.

All this will essentially be a consequence of maintaining the Gross Nation Product at the same level it is now, because consumer spending will not increase under the present culture of fear and uncertainty.

After election, the barometer of the Gross Natiinal Produce will predict the step by step empowerment of government to take more and more control of the economy and the work force.

You do know that Venezuela nationalized its oil industry in 1976 right? That's about a quarter century before Chavez. The price of gas in Venezuela is $0.18 cents a gallon. Just saying.

Originally Posted by Chaz21

You do know that Venezuela nationalized its oil industry in 1976 right? That's about a quarter century before Chavez. The price of gas in Venezuela is $0.18 cents a gallon. Just saying.

Yes, I should have said "Re-Nationalization" by Chevez, which is tied to his efforts to create a monopoly in Oil through a concerted agreement with all producers to "fix' the price of Oil.
In the case of Chevez, his focus on using the profits to support other industries vital to the general welfare of the people is a redeeming addition to this price fixing.

But with OPEC, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and dictators like Saddam only the pockets of the few, the princes and the heads of these nations benefit by monopoly.
The political forces that work against free enterprise and capital investors are at the heart of holding these nations down and long have been.

What seems to have been a colonialization that was exploitive has really been a modernization of backward places where the benefits of their natural resources have been the motivation for so doing.

That th populations in those plav]ces did not enjoy the financial gains, but were really robbed by their own leaders has been ignored.
Anti-colonialists like Obama have forgotten that the real enemy of the people were their own people.

They have made the colonial powers who came to produce the raw materials the scape goats, because they saw them as enablers for the dictators and leaders.
That was unavoidable as long as the people tolerated that oppression from those leaders.

What common sense ought teach these nations is that they need the once colonial nations as customers for their resources, but need to make ceertain that they, their people, benefit by the way their government treats them.