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Old 02-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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Icon15 Obama whining over Fla. votes

Obama's people are now whining that they should have a revote in Fla.
Why should they get a re-do? Should Hillary get a re-do in her choice
of states, like say, Missourie which was razor close?

She took Fla. by over 50 % to Obama's 33%. Neither were allowed to
campaign and therefore they had equal oppty. there.

Except, not really. Obama's ads ran in Fla. He had cable t.v. ads,
that couldn't be limited by state, so the ads ran in Fla.

Clinton, had NO ads running. So if anyone had an advantage, it was
Obama. Yet Clinton still won by close to 20% margin.

Now that the race is getting close, it looks like they will have to
allow Fla.'s votes to be counted. Yet Obama is whining for a re-do and
trying to set himself up to yell foul.

I'm sorry, but it always seems "Whine, whine, whine". Its always a one sided deal with Obama.
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Old 02-08-2008, 12:17 PM
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Obama's people are now whining that they should have a revote in Fla.
Why should they get a re-do? Should Hillary get a re-do in her choice
of states, like say, Missourie which was razor close?

She took Fla. by over 50 % to Obama's 33%. Neither were allowed to
campaign and therefore they had equal oppty. there.

Except, not really. Obama's ads ran in Fla. He had cable t.v. ads,
that couldn't be limited by state, so the ads ran in Fla.

Clinton, had NO ads running. So if anyone had an advantage, it was
Obama. Yet Clinton still won by close to 20% margin.

Now that the race is getting close, it looks like they will have to
allow Fla.'s votes to be counted. Yet Obama is whining for a re-do and
trying to set himself up to yell foul.

I'm sorry, but it always seems "Whine, whine, whine". Its always a one sided deal with Obama.
Dude you need to chill. I can tell that you're a Hillary fan. That's fine, but she doesn't even know you, there's no need in getting so emotionally attached. They've both been working hard and deserve credit for it. By the way, Obama's popularity is what raised him the money to run ads. Hillary was running low, and really wanted those penalized votes, and so she went (against her promise) to campaign in the state.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:31 PM
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Dude you need to chill. I can tell that you're a Hillary fan. That's fine, but she doesn't even know you, there's no need in getting so emotionally attached. They've both been working hard and deserve credit for it. By the way, Obama's popularity is what raised him the money to run ads. Hillary was running low, and really wanted those penalized votes, and so she went (against her promise) to campaign in the state.
Ahh, Dude, I think you're the one who needs to chill. For the record, Hillary DID NOT campaign in Fla. There was a private fundraiser there one night.

Obama ran ads on cable television around the clock. Hillary did not go into Fla. until after the voting was OVER>

You need to ***Check your facts*** .
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FLA votes don't count. And if they were going to count, then they should not decide to retroactively.

If the Democrats decide to allow florida, I will vote for McCain, just because that would be the worst kind of gerrymandering. Already the democrats have these "super delegates" where party insiders get an inordinate amount of power. Now they are talking about letting the party insiders decide that the super delegates is not enough to get their woman elected, so they are going to start throwing in a state where everyone was told their vote didn't count.

Would you waste your time to go vote if your vote was not going to mean anything? I know I wouldn't. So if the votes are going to count, then they should have an election.. a real election... where people think their vote will be counted.
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Yeah....what's the deal here? All the Democrat candidates agreed to not campaign in Florida and agreed with the DNC that Florida and Michigan's delegates would not be counted. But since Hillary ended up campaigning there after all and won.....NOW she seeks to have them count.

I imagine she'll get her way. After all, she just got NBC's David Schuster suspended for daring to say something negative about her darling daughter! How old is her little girl now? Oh yeah....she's 27 years old. How long will the Clinton's continue to shelter and protect her?

Hillary's threatening to not appear in the NBC debate because of it. Geez. What a bunch of cry babies.
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LOL

If it goes to the convention they are going to implode.



(you can bet Hillary is going to push for those states in any popular vote Vs. superdelegate baloney show.
Its 1.7 or something million people in the party of the "popualr vote in 2000" excluded....ha no way Obama wi;l either say "I am VP(insert "lazy" 4 year job here)" or be shuffled off.

IMO no matter what they are going to include something because they do not want Michigan and Florida sending one guy each to boo them. Hillary won those.)

I do not believe either of the D's can beat Mccain but Hillary I am sure will lose to him...maybe big.





Florida had a Large Democrat turn out...so did Michigan to some degree..thats alot of voters to shaft.
Hillary was the smartest of the bunch on this 'punishment' the DNC made.

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Deja Vu all over again. Florida, democrats, hanging chads? Oh my, wah, wah, wah, the viciousness of the left is about to emerge.

The truth is lefties, this seems to be boiling down to the corruption in the democratic party of super delegates, the 796 that are lobbied heavily by the established powerful. Quite pathetic, but then, what would you expect, they're democrats, they're Clintons, nuff said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...5.story?page=2

The tradition of super delegates was adopted in the 1980s as party leaders and elected officials looked for ways to maintain their influence over a national convention. DNC officials Friday defended the practice, arguing that many of the super delegates are grass-roots activists.
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Yeah....what's the deal here? All the Democrat candidates agreed to not campaign in Florida and agreed with the DNC that Florida and Michigan's delegates would not be counted. But since Hillary ended up campaigning there after all and won.....NOW she seeks to have them count.

I imagine she'll get her way. After all, she just got NBC's David Schuster suspended for daring to say something negative about her darling daughter! How old is her little girl now? Oh yeah....she's 27 years old. How long will the Clinton's continue to shelter and protect her?

Hillary's threatening to not appear in the NBC debate because of it. Geez. What a bunch of cry babies.
Hey. You're a "site moderator"? and saying things like this?? I would think a moderator would get their facts right.

Fact #1: Hillary did NOT campaign in Florida.
Fact #2: Obama DID campaign in Florida: He ran cable t.v. ads there around the clock.
Fact #3: Hillary did NOT get Shuster suspended. Outraged viewers of MSNBC wrote letters as did her campaign folks in protests.

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be clear. These were ads on NATIONAL cable channels, there was no way to keep them from airing in Florida. Obama did not specifically campaign in Florida. In fact, he kept to the terms of the agreement not to campaign here far better than Hilary did.

As a Floridian, I'd never even SEEN an Obama ad until a couple of weeks ago in the Atlanta airport. He is far from as well-known as Hilary down here.
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Deja Vu all over again. Florida, democrats, hanging chads? Oh my, wah, wah, wah, the viciousness of the left is about to emerge.

The truth is lefties, this seems to be boiling down to the corruption in the democratic party of super delegates, the 796 that are lobbied heavily by the established powerful. Quite pathetic, but then, what would you expect, they're democrats, they're Clintons, nuff said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...5.story?page=2

The tradition of super delegates was adopted in the 1980s as party leaders and elected officials looked for ways to maintain their influence over a national convention. DNC officials Friday defended the practice, arguing that many of the super delegates are grass-roots activists.
Yeah-----I just found out by looking into it what these "super delegates" are about. ONLY Democrats would let their choice of a candidate come down to a decision by the likes of Teddy Kennedy, Al Gore, and John Kerry; all of whom are Super Delegates. Looks like they don't trust their electorate, so they leave close decisions to those inside the Beltway. I'm betting if this is real close and gets taken away from Obama, though----the Dems will see chaos like they've never seen before in their party.

Pretty pathetic, IMHO. Sure glad the Republicans don't have such archaic rules.
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