Originally Posted by Ronin-Talgar

It has added clarity, and detail. As you are now arguing against the policies he has, its evident he does, infact, have policies. This is the only point I wish to make, as that was the issue. I will say however that perhaps you should consider any benefits, economically, that Mexican labour may be bringing to your country. Perhaps someone else is interested in debating it, but this isn't the thread to do that in.

Anyway, I did want to respond to the OP, and I was going to compare transcripts of the speeches, but (*)(*)(*)(*) Obama's is long. I Imagine its apparent that, quite appart from any candidate's validity, Raeka is as partisan as they come, and has misrepresented Obama. Obama talks about lots of issues, delving into details, numbers etc. often.

Here are some links to transcripts. As far as I'm aware they are In their entirety- If I'm wrong in that please correct me Raeka, as I've not seen the footage.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/19/us...t-clinton.html

http://rturner229.blogspot.com/2008/...ry-speech.html

Originally Posted by Raeka

Sen. Clinton actually brought tears to my eyes when she spoke about the vets and the children. And I think she may have had one or two as well. She spoke of a vet who said not to forget his friends back in Iraq who need our help but that when it was over, please not to forget about fixing him too.

Originally Posted by Raeka

As she always does, she *detailed* her real solutions to our country's problems. You know she has them well thought out and planned out.

Originally Posted by Trey Greyjoy

As to the "Obama Rhetoric", I have a real, honest reaction of hope and pride when I hear him speak. THATS real. Clinton's painting castles in the clouds....thats never been real.