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Old 02-20-2008, 08:32 PM
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She needs to attack him without care of the media gasps for their honey bunny or what damage her attacks may cause in November.

She is perfectly capable of rippign Obama apart(almost any poltiician is) BUT she needs to be willing to do it( I think she is now) and she has to not let the moderator dance for Obama which pretty much entails using her time to discredit Obama.

She needs to take Change&Hope and mock them bascially as empty platitudes of nonsense.

If she lets the moderator do the usual and she is placid she hands Obama and the media another free ride.

Theres another debate February 26th in Ohio. So she gets two chances.

Debates not done


(her biggest problem is simple..her ideas are not much better then his..so dismembering his extreme liberalism is in effect attacking herself(unless she can find a way to make hers seem more sensible... as they are)


General Prediciton---Its going to be Nasty.

Regardless the winner of the debate(s) will be John McCain.


(I do enjoy the claim the Obama campaign is trying to push that Independents like him more then McCain..pfff. McCain IS an Independent in many regards..Obama is a pie in the sky Liberal)




(on a side note there is also a Republican debate February 28th...afaik its still on)
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There's something else I've noticed happening lately. Obama's ego is getting hard to disguise. "You're likable enough, Hillary" and that kind of thing. I haven't seen much of the self-deprecating humor that Americans love so much from either of them.
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There's something else I've noticed happening lately. Obama's ego is getting hard to disguise. "You're likable enough, Hillary" and that kind of thing. I haven't seen much of the self-deprecating humor that Americans love so much from either of them.
i saw someone who was compassionate. hillary was being publicly ridiculed as being cold especially compared to Obama and he tried to end the obviously embarrassing situation by diffusing the statement by offering a comment on her behalf. i see that as anything but ego. had he elaborated it would have appeared insincere. so instead of recogning this as an inappropriate gesture it should underscore what a deft touch he has in dealing with people ... something hillary is without (but which bill has in spades)
could the kool aid be affecting the way you perceive things?
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Perhaps you dismiss his choice of words to easily? "You're likable enough." Amazing you see it as helping her out.
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Perhaps you dismiss his choice of words to easily? "You're likable enough." Amazing you see it as helping her out.
if he had said "you are very likable" he would have been castigated for lying. kudos for him to exhibit the grace as he did without undermining his own integrity. of course grace and integrity are traits i would not expect your side to perceive, much less exhibit
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Perhaps you dismiss his choice of words to easily? "You're likable enough." Amazing you see it as helping her out.
hillary seemed to think so. she said she appreciated the comment.
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There's something else I've noticed happening lately. Obama's ego is getting hard to disguise.
If his nose gets any higher he'll drown in the rain.

Seriously watch him.... he often tilts his head back in order to make it appears as if he is omnipotent amongst the peons he's addressing. Its a telling mannerism that exposes his character..that is of a Snob.
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Seriously watch him.... he often tilts his head back in order to make it appears as if he is omnipotent amongst the peons he's addressing. Its a telling mannerism that exposes his character..that is of a Snob.
did you make that observation after noticing how many mouth breathers surround you?
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