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Old 08-01-2004, 11:29 AM
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Default CNN/Gallup poll: No boost for Kerry

From the USA Today....

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...ll-kerry_x.htm

Poll: No boost for Kerry after convention
By Susan Page, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — The Democratic National Convention boosted voters' perceptions of John Kerry's leadership on critical issues, a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll finds. But it failed to give him the expected bump in the head-to-head race against President Bush.

In the survey, taken Friday and Saturday, the Democratic ticket of Kerry and John Edwards trailed the Republican ticket of Bush and Dick Cheney 50% to 46% among likely voters, with independent candidate Ralph Nader at 2%.

Before the convention, the two were essentially tied, with Kerry at 47%, Bush at 46%.

The change in support was within the poll's margin of error of +/- 4 percentage points in the sample of 763 likely voters. But it was nonetheless a stunning result, the first time in the Gallup Poll since the 1972 Democratic convention that a candidate seemed to lose ground at his convention.

USA TODAY extended its survey Sunday night and tonight to get a fuller picture of what's happening with the electorate.

A Newsweek survey taken Thursday and Friday showed the Democrats with a lead of 49% to 42%, a four-point bounce compared with a poll taken three weeks earlier — the smallest in the history of the Newsweek poll.


Wow! This is excellent news indeed. Sucks to be a Kerry supporter, that's for sure!
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:33 AM
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Default Well, a new Newsweek poll shows...

Kerry at 52% and Bush at 44%. So who do you believe? If you'll notice the USAtoday method, they pulled out the 50% they deemed most likely to vote. So, how legit is that? I think that this election will likely be decided by those that don't nornally vote. And USAtoday aren't counting those. So...I don't think it means much.
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:39 AM
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Default The only thing that counts...

Is the election. I don't put much faith in polls.

'Nuff said.
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:42 AM
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Default HA HA

Actually, it is not that any ONE poll matters....it is the fact that Kerry HAS NO MARGIN TO GIVE UP TO BUSH.

It is HISTORICAL FACT that there has NEVER been a Presidential election where a challenger who was not leading by at LEAST 15 pts in Aug. has unseated the incumbent. Never. And anyone can look up this fact.

Face it...Kerry needed to be LEADING Bush IN ALL THE POLLS at this point in order to have a respectible shot at beating Bush. The fact that he is not, and even in some polls seems to be LOSING ground to Bush, DESPITE the just concluded DNC Convention, bodes VERY poorly for Kerry and his supporters.

As stated....it is good news indeed!!
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:47 AM
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Actually, it is not that any ONE poll matters....it is the fact that Kerry HAS NO MARGIN TO GIVE UP TO BUSH.

It is HISTORICAL FACT that there has NEVER been a Presidential election where a challenger who was not leading by at LEAST 15 pts in Aug. has unseated the incumbent. Never. And anyone can look up this fact.

Face it...Kerry needed to be LEADING Bush IN ALL THE POLLS at this point in order to have a respectible shot at beating Bush. The fact that he is not, and even in some polls seems to be LOSING ground to Bush, DESPITE the just concluded DNC Convention, bodes VERY poorly for Kerry and his supporters.

As stated....it is good news indeed!!
Good thing you've never heard of statistical anomolies. And it's also a good thing that something that's never happened in the past can never happen in the future. (*)(*)(*)(*) it all!
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Old 08-01-2004, 11:53 AM
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Default Sorry

but as closely watch as this election is, I don't think that there is THAT much of a statistical anomoly to refute the facts of history. Sure, anything can happen....like monkeys flying outta some guy's but in a film where Jim Carey gets to play God.

BTW, love your autosignature. I find it interesting that Kennedy fears Bush more than he does M.E. Terror organizations. Pretty much makes a lie out of everything Kerry said this past Thursday.

But then, 10 out of 10 terrorists agree....Bush must be defeated!
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Default This is just sad.

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BTW, love your autosignature. I find it interesting that Kennedy fears Bush more than he does M.E. Terror organizations. Pretty much makes a lie out of everything Kerry said this past Thursday.
That's like saying FDR thought that we shouldn't be afriad of the Germans. It was a play on words, and was not meant to be taken literally. It meant that we should be afraid of Bush getting re-elected, he didn't in fact mean that that was the only thing we need be afraid of.

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But then, 10 out of 10 terrorists agree....Bush must be defeated!
Sure they do. Of course, you have no evidence to support that claim, but your word is evidence enough for me!
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Default This election is unique

So I would throw most of the bs statistics like august leads out the window. There is a very polorized nation, etc. etc. And there is still plenty of time for bush to continue his slide into oblivian.

So what counts is the election.

That said, most of the polls I have seen have Kerry leading and Bush looks to be fading.
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Default Yeah, yeah...

Whatever you guys want to believe or think. Putting myself in your shoes, I wouldn't want to believe it either!

Remember...we are all partisans, right?

BTW....Sandy Berger has NOT been cleared, and the investigation continues.

OUCH!! "Black Sunday" for LiberHaters indeed....

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Default PATHETIC!!

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Whatever you guys want to believe or think. Putting myself in your shoes, I wouldn't want to believe it either!

Remember...we are all partisans, right?

BTW....Sandy Berger has NOT been cleared, and the investigation continues.

OUCH!! "Black Sunday" for LiberHaters indeed....

Well..the CIA Leak Investigation continues too..with Powell the latest Sr Admin official to be questioned. What is your point?
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