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Old 03-05-2008, 11:08 AM
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But, let's cut through the nonsense.

David Duke opposes Obama because he's a black man. That's the main issue.
Well I would be pissed if we elected this guy and his wife and he put Africa and the Black race first. Again here is the Churches views. I guess if you are a attendee then you agree with those views or why else would you go.





On the church’s Internet homepage, in the first section titled, “About Us,” its first sentence denotes the church as unashamedly Black, and then goes on in the next sentence to proclaim:

…We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.

Obama’s church promotes what it calls a Black value system and Black ethics that must be promoted wherever Blacks are gathered. It advances 12 principles

1. Commitment to God
2. Commitment to the Black Community
3. Commitment to the Black Family
4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.
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Old 03-05-2008, 11:24 AM
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I don't believe that this means that Obama puts his blackness ahead of everything else. I know many people who are parents and African american, and it does mean that they have to think about the world in a different way than white parents do.

In a way, parents like Obama and Michelle are trying to swim against a tide within the black community, and there is a sense of collective responsibility within these churches that many white churches might envy (if they were smart enough).
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I guess he is trying to say that the church they attend and their views on life that he and her experienced will define the way they will act in office and shape their views on how the country should be. He says their Church according to the goals he got off their website is pro africa centric and Africa should be put first. Maybe he thinks that Obama and his wife in office would put Afica and Blacks first and anything else would come second including the U.S.
I have no doubt Duke thinks that. But how successful do you think an American President would be should he decide to put Africa first? It's not even a legitimate concern. Will he be more in tune with blacks than, say, a lilly white, blue blooded, trust fund baby like George Bush? You can count on it. Does that mean it's the entire focus of his life? I doubt it.

As far as the church goes, keep in mind that black churches tend to be located in black communities, which tend to be lower income, higher crime areas. Churches in those areas get very involved in the community. None of the items listed seemed out of line to me:


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1. Commitment to God
It is a church.

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2. Commitment to the Black Community
I.E. to the community in which the church is located.

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3. Commitment to the Black Family
The black nuclear family is a minority in poor black neighborhoods. Nuclear families are better for kids. So this makes sense to me.

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4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Terrible. Just terrible.

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5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
This is quite (*)(*)(*)(*)ing.

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6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Not sure what the "black" work ethic is, but a work ethic is a good thing.

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7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
That is pretty controversial all right.

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8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness”
Don't know what that means!

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9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Looking to themselves rather than the government. Very conservative of them, no?

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10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
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11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Not sure what that is.

Nothing here is an issue for me in terms of his church. Sorry.
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The most facinating part of this thread so far was finding out that there are still people in the world who care about what David Duke has to say about anything.
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Now most people around here knows what David Duke stands for, since LA-Oilman is basing his views on Sen. Obama by a piece that David Duke wrote what does that tell us about him?

LA-Oilman some of the threads you have started on Sen. Obama have been borderline or alittle suspect themselves, now do you share the same views of black people as David Duke?

Personally, I think David Duke is a coward, but that is for another thread.


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Why doesn't he just man up? He doesn't support Obama because Obama is black and Duke is a racist. Jeez. At least grow a pair.
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This is a article by my fellow Louisianan David Duke on why he can't support Barak Obama for President and reveals some scathing details about Michelle Obama's views and her thesis she wrote at Princeton that the Obama camp doesn't want the public to know about until after the election. David Duke reveals the truth and you should read the article in its entirety because he reveals details that the media is giving him and his wife a pass on. Here is the revealing article.

http://www.davidduke.com/general/why...html#more-3522
Let's see David Duke, refresh my memory didn't he serve as a Republican something or another?
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I didn't realize that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are eunuchs.....not that I gave it much thought.
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