With my first post on this new forum i thought that i should start with something constructive. Therefore, I seek to give you the view of an outsider, judging the Democratic nomination campaigns from an objective point of view with few preconceptions of candidates.

Long story short, Barack Obama is the preferred choice. His inexperience actually makes him more of a satisfactory candidate than the been there, done that, got the t-shirt attitude than Hillary. Hillarys style is that of the early '90s in my opinion. She may as well come out and let us know that "it's the economy, stupid." As much as I was a supporter of Bill I believe that America is passed that time and Barack is the way forward. The man advocates change, and from my perception of things, the good ol' U.S of A is in much need of severe change, and maybe the aforementioned quote referring to the economy might be quite apt in the current situation, not to mention a growing obesity crisis.

Mr. Obama is still the forerunner, and long may he stay there and i believe it goes without saying that he carries the momentum from a hopefully successful nomination campaign and claims the ultimate prize and takes America into a new prosperous age.

Without referring me to a website, cutting or pasting anything, or posting some YouTool video, can you (personally) explain what Obama means by "change?"

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By change Obama is referring to the economy. Hence my reference in my own post to "its the economy stupid". He wishes to add some form of welfare to the U.S.A and this, in my opinion is necessary. There is a growing underclass in America, and if they are not tended to now it will only grow larger and the U.S could be in some serious trouble in maybe thirty or so years.

Care to elaborate? How exactly is he going to "fix" the economy?

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Firstly, the past couple of questions you have asked me have been answered in my previous posts. Secondly, as i said before he plans to introduce a moderate form of welfare beginning with the health care, and i suspect this will be branched out to help the underprivileged.

No. They weren't. "Some sort of welfare" doesn't cut it. Aren't you interested at all WHAT kind of welfare it is, or how much YOU will have to pay for it? As far as "change," you still haven't explained what that change is. Finally, the obesity problem in America is not something that a socialist government should be spending tax dollars on. The people need to be responsible for their own health, when it comes to pounding insane amounts of bad food down their holes.

Who are the "underprivileged?" The ones who "can't afford health care," but CAN afford cell phones, cars, computers, weekly trips to the nail shop? Those people? Again, I ask...what is this "moderate form of welfare" you speak of? Can you give any points? Can you elaborate on who's pocket these funds will be stolen out of, and to whom that money will be given to?


This is the problem with Obamania...

They like the songs he sings, but they don't know any of the lyrics.

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"The mods won't let you call a moron a 'moron'." --BillyBobaganoosh

I believe that you should accept that this is the "outside view". From outside of the USA it is obvious that American culture is failing itself.

I believe that people should help each other as well as themselves. From ones ability to anothers needs, to para-phrase a well known ideologist.

I am not pushing for communism, but, this is an ideal which is admired.

Barack Obama in my opinion is trying to bring a form of this ideal into America with his healthcare reforms, and it is the underprivileged that this will reach out to. This is part of the "welfare" i speak of. Obama aims to lower the rate of those without health insurance by removing illegibility due to previous illnesses for civilians and also to provide comprehensive benefits for those who struggle to afford insurance.
This is an unfortunate product of current American culture. I admit that there are those who don't take personal responsibility, and it is these people who need to be addressed. However, there are those who are legitimately impoverished. From the outside looking in all i can see is a growing underclass in the USA who are not being provided for. Your ignorance to this fact,and your focus on your own needs is what has led to a selfish outlook on politics, asking .

Your apparent refusal to help the unfortunate or less well off may be due to a bad perception of that social group as you sit high on the social ladder. However, would you not agree that it would be best to help them, help themselves. Maybe increase in tax a little, or cut expenditure elsewhere to provide for this would allow for many relatively impoverished families to afford health insurance, leaving money elsewhere to provide a suitable environment for a childs' better education, therefore improving the USA as a whole, maybe reviving the American Dream which is turning into a nightmare for some.

Or do you believe that the lower classes of society cannot be helped, that they will squander what extra funds they receive and therefore widen the gulf developing between themselves and the rest of society?
I am no advocate of Obamania, i simply support his views. I do not buy into the media hype surrounding any candidate for such an important office.

They songs he sings are good, but i am not one of those who you speak of about not knowing the lyrics, i have done my research good sir, and do know what i and Barack speak of.

Yet you can not elaborate on exactly what he intends to do, if he were to win the position of President. Is it that you are hoping, or assuming, he's going to do a good job? Is your entire position based on the "if-come?"

C'mon man. Don't give me a bunch of empty rhetoric, and some "feel good" scenarios. I want hard facts. What's Obama's plan? NOT his message.

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"The mods won't let you call a moron a 'moron'." --BillyBobaganoosh

Ok, you want change - here it is.

A change in the style of politics. More transparency, less lobbying, more focus on the majority of Americans and less on the minority of them. How about fewer negative attacks, fewer "yes" men and women, more bipartisanship. Or how about fair trade for the US, less squandering of money on a useless war, more regulated health care. Better foreign policy, more practical use of military... I can go on, should I elaborate more? Do you want me to come up with a budget for you to analyze? Or how about a timeline on when these things will get achieved. The problem with people like you is that you are satisfied with the present system and thus fail to see what needs changing.

Your post explains nothing of what Obama actually plans to do.

Once again, another Obamaniac who likes the song, but doesn't know the lyrics.

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