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Old 03-16-2008, 02:12 PM
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First off, the largest segments of the democratic party are white women and black people. In many southern states, Black Democrats make up half of the primary voters, so yes it does help to be either Black or a Woman in the Democratic primary. However, the national election is different and independent voters may not want to vote for a Black person or Woman.

Jesse Jackson and other Blacks, and Women have run for the nomination before and have not won, so Race or Gender can only take you so far.

Black voters will likely stay home than vote. Enthusiasm is what brings people off the couches and into the voting booths. People generally don't vote out of spite. They vote out of fear or enthusiasm. If the GOP put a black person in the VP spot, Black could go GOP, but there really is no reason why they would want to vote GOP just to spite the Democrats.

I could see more White women willing to vote GOP if Hillary loses. Generally speaking, voter participation is low and many college kids will stay home if Obama loses.

I think you have a really anti-Black bias. Obama's race helps him in the Democratic primary, but its not the only reason he is attracting huge crowds. Al Sharpton ran in 2004 and he didn't get large crowds. Also, Obama is half-black/half-white and it allows him to attract both white and black audiences who approve of inter-racial marriages.

Obama has a lot of political talent, like Bill Clinton or JFK. There is also a lot of Anti-Hillary sentiment in the Democratic party due to her Iraq war vote, etc.

There are a lot of talented Black individuals who have succeeded like Michael Jordan, Bill Cosby, Tiger Woods.

As far as the media being racist it is a dubious statement because if America is over 70% white, then there will always naturally be a greater focus on issues concerning white-Americans. Most minorities realize that they are Minorities in America and wealth and power is held by White Americans. Its not that the media is anti-Black, but that it just wants to appeal to the larger wealthier white audience.

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will the African Americans rebel and vote for McCain out of spite in protest for Hillary. Will they say that whites and the media arer really true racist towards blacks and it showed if Hillary recieved the nomination? They have to lay blame on something besides Obama.
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Old 03-16-2008, 02:39 PM
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if the DNC ignores the superior vote count, state primary wins and elected delegate count to GIVE the nomination to hillary instead of Obama (assuming those superior outcomes are achieved by his campaign) it will destroy the democrat brand ... especially with African-Americans.
i would expect them to stay home in november. if that happens, and looking at the past two elections it's a distinct possibility, i will vote for mcclean rather than not vote. suspect there are others who feel the same
however, if the secret service is not up to protecting him - as in dallas of all places when their waived the scrutiny of attendees - they effectively tell the rednecks with a bullet and a desire to make a name for themselves that it is open season on the black candidate. should the worst happen you better find a foxhole to survive the rage which will take place in our streets
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sigh. i'm getting a little sick of black people being everywhere. I just don't care anymore about the whole civil rights thing >.> people talk about it constantly, i'm in a political science class that's extremely liberal, and i have to write a paper on a movie about love and hate of black people. the movie was good, but the paper is going to be crap.
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sigh. I'm getting pretty sick of ignorant people being everywhere.
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Per John McCain, the correct racial slur is "gooks." Please try to stay on the same page.

Didn't McCain lose five planes? Didn't he scrape by at the bottom of his class?
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McCain got shot down by a SAM and thousands of pilots were. They were hard to avoid and McCain flew into a hornets nest of them. He was following orders.
How do you know that, you ever had a SAM fired at you?

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Thats bravery. He also commanded the largest fighter squadron after he was released. My father was shot up in WW2 by the Nips and after he was healed he went back into combat. That did not make him a bad soldier either. You people keep trying to justify why Obama should be our President. I just heard on the radio that there is a bombshell that is fixing to expose Obama that will derail him and the major news sources, ABC, NBC and CbS who have been giving him a pass are fixing to hammer him. Obama is fixing to have to answer some tough questions regarding Lybian leader Moammar Qaddaffi. Stay tuned!!


Read this about McCain how he was shot down and what he went through and what his accomplishments after the war. Compare this to Obama.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain
Ok now how does this equate to making him more qualified than the next guy to be President?

So according to your logic from this point on no one can run for POTUS unless they were in a war and a POW.
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sigh. i'm getting a little sick of black people being everywhere.
sigh. I'm getting pretty sick of ignorant people being everywhere.
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